[Johnson] Fw: Re: Johnson Valiant Zero Beat Tone

Thu Jul 2 01:55:22 EDT 2015

Hello Jerry & All.
Jerry I want to thank you for your reply and letting me know to reply to this way to the johnsonmailman.qth.net..
I don't know much about the Valiant &  as I called it  A SPOT Tone for the Zero Beat which I have done many times with a Hallicrafters HT-32A & The SX-101 Receiver but the HT-32A went out on me so I picked up the Johnson Valiant to pair up with the SX-101 receiver but I will say that when I first got the Johnson it had a zero tone in it as I used it just as I did on the 32A but then it went out and I did read on one of the post on the net that to check the tubes for that so I did check all the tubes in it & found 2 really week ones so I replace them BUT when I went to tune it up it was way off in Freq like the Dial would read 7.200 but it was transmitting on 7.300 so I wrote the man I got it from about it and he said that when you change anything in this transmitter it will change things & you will have to re-do the VFO so I went by the manual & got it back on track on all the bands so while I have it apart I thought  I would try & get some help with the missing tone but you all are saying it did not have one & all I can say is there a way someone could have added a spot tone to it in the past? For me the transmitter looks stock .. Also For me I have no problem zero beating it by the carrier it puts out.. I am running a Inverted L 30 ft going up & 90 ft going out from there I have 14 ground wires of different lengths at the base of the L with a 9 to 1  being feed with LMR-400 to the Ameritron ATR-20  tuner 60 feet to the shack and I have no problems running my Yaesu 857D and my ALS-500 amp from 6 meters to 160 meters with 100 watts to 500 watts so that is the set up I am using with the Valiant..
 So I will just leave the spot tone thing go & zero Beat with the carrier tell I can talk to Tom NE7X who you might want to look up on QRZ as his set up he built is something to see but he is out of town for 2 weeks..
 QUESTION
Tonight I was talking to another Ham I know on 15 meters AM and in the back of the Valiant by the 3- 6146s there is a stack of coils and at one point I saw spark or something that cought my eye and when I looked one of the 6146 was glowing a nice blue color like a flame on a gas stove so I right then stoped transmitting and so I am thinking that even if I did re-do the VFO I did not check the Bias &  so when I am done here I will check that & then see if that took care of things as nothing smoked or burnt and I let the rig run now for over an Hr and all is ok so any thought as to if I am going the right way on this..??

I know I have a lot to learn and no one knows the Hrs I spend reading to try and learn what I need to know and I will never get it all the way but I am out to get what I can so I can enjoy this Hobby that I spend so much time with & Loving it and I can not tell anyone not even me Girlfriend of 15 years why I Just Dig these old radios that I really can't work on & why I do as I do but all I can say is I have a Drive bigger than all you out there reading this to LEARN just enough to keep me and my Old Radios above water so we don't drown Hi Hi. What I would like to know a man would have to go to school for some time and I am like other Hams who at the time just did the questions & answers to get the Ticket & learned nothing & Now I want to learn what I should have been doing but I am not all that dumb as I have learned a lot over the years..
 Well I have said a mouth full but I do hope to pick up a lot of help from this group or I would have not spent the time to find it..
 Jerry Thanks Again
  73 to all
   Richard
I am listed as in Kearny ,Ariz  but I have a shack here in Peoria , Ariz with my Lady so any Ham in this area who wants to be a teacher to a 68 year young man Please say hello to me.. 

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-----Forwarded Message-----
>From: Jerry K <w5kp at hughes.net>
>Sent: Jul 1, 2015 8:03 PM
>To: johnson at mailman.qth.net
>Subject: Re: [Johnson] Johnson Valiant Zero Beat Tone
>
>For info of all: Richard Morris answered my query off list and, did 
>confirm he is a legit ham (KB7FDF, near Kearny, AZ). With that detail 
>out of the way, Richard Knoppow and/or others can hopefully proceed to 
>provide this young man some help in figuring out his old Johnson beast. 
>I sold my Valiant about 8 years ago, but I do recall mine did not have a 
>sidetone function, tuning was done using a carrier zero beat process, 
>feeding the Valiant's VFO to an R-390A.
>
>For Richard KB7FDF: Richard, you should reply to the list 
>(johnson at mailman.qth.net), not to individuals, when you need general 
>help. That way everyone will see the info and can maybe chime in to 
>assist. Good luck and welcome! This is a great list and these guys will 
>help you any way they can.
>73 Jerry W5KP
>
>
>On 7/1/2015 7:13 PM, Richard Knoppow wrote:
>> I think some on this list are suspicious of this post.   I will assume 
>> it is serious.   The Viking Valiant does NOT have a side tone.  CW is 
>> monitored in the receiver or a separate side tone generator is used.   
>> Zero beating is done in the same way by turning off the receiver mute 
>> and listening to the signal from the exciter part of the transmitter 
>> on the receiver.  If you have been getting a signal for zero beating 
>> on 20 meters it should still be there unless the transmitter is not 
>> putting out at all on that band (possible).
>>      Tell us about the rest of the set up; what kind of receiver are 
>> you using, do you have an antenna tuner,  how do you switch the 
>> antenna from receive to transmit?   Any other details.
>>
>> On 7/1/2015 12:23 PM, richard wrote:
>>> Hello.
>>> I have a Johnson Valiant that has lost the Tone for the Zero Beating 
>>> it has it on 20 meters but not on any other band and I am not sure 
>>> where to start to look so if someone can give me a good direction to 
>>> start and try to walk me threw what to look for & do that would be 
>>> Great & know I am not a TEC of any kind I just picked this 
>>> Transmitter up and am trying for what little I know to get it back on 
>>> the Air. I do have the Manual but it really is not any help that I 
>>> can find.. I have read that the Side Tone Oscillator has something to 
>>> do with the zero tone but where is that on the Valiant?.. So any Help 
>>> would be Great.
>>> Thanks Much
>>>   Richard
>>>
>>> Richard Morris
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