[ILQSO] ILQP thoughts, observations

Mon Oct 20 13:58:03 EDT 2025

I agree with Jim that this point of the cycle, the mobiles do FAR better on
the higher bands-and many thinks to these guys for coming out. It draws
more out of staters, which benefit us fixed guys.

The question remains however...bonus or point incentives for mobile low
band QSO's? WPX and may others give higher points for low band QSO's
already.

Just a thought.

73 Chuck

On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 11:44 AM Michael Johnson <mike at palomonet.com> wrote:

> Once again we enjoyed a wonderful ILQP Mobile experience running as KA9FZR
> out of WI along the top two tiers of northern counties.  Our experience
> this year is as reported:  20 was a house-a-fire and 40 was a bit Meh.   We
> use the ILQP to refine our technique and try out new gear for our WIQP
> efforts in the spring.  We have had wonderful experiences over the past 4
> years.
>
> My preparation for the ILQP included working in both the NYQP and the
> PAQP.  Both of those showed significant activity on 20 meters until very
> late afternoon and evening.  It just makes sense as that is how the bands
> roll at this stage of the solar cycle.  Our limited ILQP time ends about
> 2100 UTC so we miss the early evening shift to the low bands.
>
> We would love to find more stations on 40, but the QSO rate was much slower
> than 20 meters, making the shift to that band a difficult choice.  We tried
> to dedicate a portion of each county's travel time to 40, but there were a
> couple (OOGL and BOON) that had pretty short distances.
>
> It is a difficult choice to make on the fly between rate and mults.
> Usually rate wins.
>
> MJ, WO9B
>
>
> On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 11:04 AM James Funk <n9jfcountyhunter at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>
> > Chuck, you raise some good points that are common, in some form or other,
> > to most ILQPs.  I'll be happy to spend some time addressing them as an
> > excuse to take a break from acknowledging receipt of logs.  I am the
> > "robot".  If  you sent a log already and haven't gotten a response, it
> will
> > likely happen today.
> >
> > ILQP requires a lot of strategy, planning and luck to make everything
> > happen in the manner that makes the most people happy.  Ideally, one
> would
> > see the following:
> > 1)Good weather, but not too good.   No big issues that create hazards for
> > mobiles and portables but not so good that people think, "It's too nice a
> > day to spend indoors by the radio..."
> > 2)Good propagation on all bands, 80-10 meters.
> > 3)No distractions like football or World Series.  Good luck with that!
> > 4) Fixed stations in every one of the 102 counties with time, good
> > equipment, reasonable skills and multiple modes.
> > 5) Failing #4, portable stations in the "missing counties" with good
> > equipment, reasonable skills, multiple operators and modes and no
> > disasters.
> > 6) Augmenting (4) and (5), mobile stations to cover long routes with
> > multiple bands and modes and skilled operators.
> >
> > OK, so that's "the ideal".....
> >
> > Here's what we have:
> > 102 counties, some with virtually NO active fixed stations
> > Decreased number of portable operations this year, for whatever reason.
> > Somewhat decreased number of mobile operations this year.
> > Propagation that favored the high bands.
> > Mobiles are mostly CW.
> >
> > Speaking from the viewpoint of a former mobile operator, you go where the
> > points are.  If your station is working better on 15 and 20 than on the
> low
> > bands, and you have a continuous pileup, that's probably where you stay.
> > From experience, I can say that in the middle of an ILQP, sometimes you
> > find out that your antennas for 40 and/or 80 suddenly don't work like
> they
> > are supposed to.  You go with what works.  In an 8-hour contest, there
> > isn't a lot of time for trouble-shooting.
> >
> > I think there was less "cheerleading" this year than usual.  I know I
> did a
> > lot less due to a host of other responsibilities and family health issues
> > prior to the contest.  W9DP did a great job of keeping the activity map
> > updated and prompting people to post their plans.  Most years, I send out
> > emails to all of the previous year's participants.  That simply did not
> > happen this year.
> >
> > i'm still recovering from the weekend, but I think there were several
> > "positives" yesterday:
> >
> > 1) We did have some great mobile operations, most of whom came from out
> of
> > state.  I can't say enough THANKS!! to those guys!
> > 2) We had some enthusiastic portable operators, including some
> > multi-multi's.  I'm betting they had a good time!
> > 3) Propagation on 20 meters was as good as I've ever seen it for an ILQP.
> > I didn't even go to 15 meters and probably should have.  Conditions on 40
> > and 80 were OK, but things on 20 didn't quit at sundown.
> > 4) I think there was a decent amount of activity on phone as well as CW,
> > but as a portable with compromised antennas, I didn't get in on much of
> it.
> > 5) Spotting networks made an obvious contribution.
> > 6) Portables in parks got a good boost in participation from the
> WWFF/POTA
> > chasers.
> >
> > So......what do we do?
> >
> > There were a lot of "new" calls heard yesterday.  Grab their enthusiasm
> and
> > get them back next year, more hours, more contacts, maybe a portable
> > operation?  Encourage the WWFF/POTA crowd to do more park operations
> during
> > ILQP.  Encourage new Techs to upgrade and get their privileges on the air
> > for ILQP.  Invite a newbie to join you at home or in the field.   Go
> > mobile. Unfortunately, after many years of mobile operation, I have
> pretty
> > much given up operating "on the fly", and my regular driver isn't
> > comfortable with that craziness any longer.  Age matters.  Enjoy it while
> > you can.  Yes, we miss K9NR,  K9ZO, W9DY, N9DT, and many others who were
> > stalwarts 10-20 years ago.
> >
> > I'll enjoy reading follow-up posts to Chuck's, and maybe we can give
> ILQP a
> > shot in the arm for 2026?
> >
> > Back to logs....  73, Jim N9JF
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On Mon, Oct 20, 2025 at 10:22 AM Chuck Schneebeli <
> > chuckschneebeli at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > > The main thought...HOW do we get more county activity?
> > >
> > > The "big" mobiles this year were AD4EB and NU0Q. I had 5 Q's with
> AD4EB,
> > > and only 1 with NU0Q. The counties they activated and I didn't work
> them
> > > in, were the counties I missed because NU0Q spent a vast majority of
> time
> > > on 15, and AD4EB spent a vast majority of time on 20. AND, I understand
> > > why--that's their bread and butter bands right now at this point in the
> > > cycle. And, they are needed to attract outside of state participation
> for
> > > sure!  Maybe the guys with a variety of high gain antennas can pick
> them
> > > out...but...not my little station.
> > >
> > > I only heard NU0Q one time. On 20. Even though I tuned his freq on 15
> > many
> > > times. AD4EB was heard a few more times on 20, but, very, very weak,
> and
> > > the pileup just covered him up (maybe 1-2khz split op next time?). He
> is
> > > fast, and he is GOOD! It was driving me nuts seeing my county total so
> > low,
> > > while they were available.
> > >
> > > Looking back at my best score--in 2002 setting the SCLA record, I had
> > > nearly the same QSO total this year being a about 20 higher, but my
> mults
> > > in 2002 were 144, this year was 116. I missed breaking my best by 2000
> > > points. Scored 140k this year, and 142k in 2002. If I had the same
> mults,
> > > my score would have been 173k!
> > >
> > > What can we do to help us ins state guys to work the /M?
> > >
> > > Maybe incentivize 40/80 meter Q's for the mobiles? Bonus? Higher points
> > for
> > > low band contacts?
> > >
> > > This would make this contest alot more interesting for us in state
> > > operators for sure. Possible generating more activity in the long run?
> > > During the bottom of the cycle when they spend more time on time on
> > 40/80,
> > > its alot of fun chasing them-because we actually have a chance to work
> > > them.
> > >
> > > I am seriously thinking of doing a casual mobile op next year, making a
> > > priority to spend a little time on 40 in each county for the in state
> > guys
> > > to have a chance at the mult. Not looking to win the class, but, to
> have
> > > some fun.
> > >
> > > Also, we need to figure a way to promote more portable stations. My
> > > adjacent counties -Clinton, Washington, Monroe were not heard from.
> > Monroe
> > > borders St. Louis county, MO. And the others are maybe 30 min away from
> > > STL. Maybe promote as dual activation like K9I did? Set up for a Parks
> on
> > > the AIr/ILQP activation? That's going thru my mind also for next year.
> > > Mapping a route, setting up at POTA sites in dead counties, and doing a
> > > dual activation.
> > >
> > > Still had a blast this year!
> > >
> > > I sure miss hearing our friends K9NR & K9ZO.
> > >
> > > What do you all think?
> > >
> > > 73 Chuck KI9A SCLA
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