[ICOM] Re: Icom Digest, USB to CI-V Cable

Ken wn2sqc at yahoo.com
Sat Jun 2 06:39:42 EDT 2007


Hi Folks, if you're looking for a USB to CI-V cable try the
homebrew one in the latest QST magazine. A handful of parts
and you're good to go. Ken 


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>    1. Radio Shack 20-049 Programming Cable
> (jpk5lad at cox.net)
>    2. Re: Radio Shack 20-049 Programming Cable (Gary)
>    3. Re: Radio Shack 20-049 Programming Cable
> (jpk5lad at cox.net)
>    4. OPC1529  (Ed K1EP)
>    5. Re: [-] [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming Cable
>       (Paul Playford)
>    6. Re: Radio Shack 20-049 Programming Cable (D C *Mac*
> Macdonald)
>    7. Re: [-] [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming Cable
> (Tom Crawford)
>    8. Re: [-] [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming Cable
> (dave)
>    9. Re: [-] [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming Cable
>       (jpk5lad at cox.net)
>   10. RE: Radio Shack 20-049 Programming Cable (AD5PE)
> > From: <jpk5lad at cox.net>
> Subject: [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming Cable
> CC: 
> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 16:27:44 -0700
> To: ICOM Reflector <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> 
> Mac - K2GKK/5 suggested I upload the 20-249 schematic to
> my web site so here 'tis:
> 
>
http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/download/Radio%20Shack%2020-049%20cable.JPG
>  or if it splits the URL try:
> 
> http://tinyurl.com/3xg5zo
> 
> 73,
> Jim - K5LAD
> > --
> > ===========================
> > http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/
> 
> 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <jpk5lad at cox.net>
> > To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 6:57 PM
> > Subject: [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming Cable
> > 
> > 
> > This cable, 20-049, is for some of their scanners and
> I've not been able to 
> > use it for any CI-V applications.  Several weeks ago I
> "wrung out" the 
> > schematic of the 20-049 and I've offered it via private
> email to several 
> > members on the reflector but I haven't heard back from
> any of them.  I 
> > thought this might be helpful but evidently nobody
> wants or needs it.
> > Anyway, I do have a schematic of only the RS 20-049
> cable if somebody does 
> > need it.
> > 
> > 73,
> > Jim - K5LAD
> > 
> > --
> > ===========================
> > http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/
> > 
> 
> 
> > From: Gary <n6lrv at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming Cable
> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 16:52:19 -0700
> To: ICOM Reflector <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> 
> Jim,
> Your schematic is a bit odd. Did you actually cut open
> your cable to come up with the
> conductor colors and the shield connection? Connecting
> the shield to pin 2 (data
> receive) of the serial connector is very unusual. Usually
> the shield would be
> connected to pin 5 (ground). I rung out mine without
> cutting the molded cable open and
> found that the cable appears to be straight through with
> only data transmit (serial
> pin 3) passing all the way through to the phone plug
> along with serial pin 5 (ground).
> As shown in your drawing there appear to be no flow
> control jumpers on the serial
> side. I don't see how this could be used for any Icom
> application at this time.
> Gary
> 
> jpk5lad at cox.net wrote:
> 
> > Mac - K2GKK/5 suggested I upload the 20-249 schematic
> to my web site so here 'tis:
> >
> >
>
http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/download/Radio%20Shack%2020-049%20cable.JPG
> >  or if it splits the URL try:
> >
> > http://tinyurl.com/3xg5zo
> >
> > 73,
> > Jim - K5LAD
> > > --
> > > ===========================
> > > http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/
> >
> > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > From: <jpk5lad at cox.net>
> > > To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 6:57 PM
> > > Subject: [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming Cable
> > >
> > >
> > > This cable, 20-049, is for some of their scanners and
> I've not been able to
> > > use it for any CI-V applications.  Several weeks ago
> I "wrung out" the
> > > schematic of the 20-049 and I've offered it via
> private email to several
> > > members on the reflector but I haven't heard back
> from any of them.  I
> > > thought this might be helpful but evidently nobody
> wants or needs it.
> > > Anyway, I do have a schematic of only the RS 20-049
> cable if somebody does
> > > need it.
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Jim - K5LAD
> > >
> > > --
> > > ===========================
> > > http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/
> > >
> >
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> 
> > From: <jpk5lad at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming Cable
> CC: 
> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 17:07:52 -0700
> To: ICOM Reflector <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> 
> Hi Gary --
> I couldn't agree with you more but that's the way mine
> was set up.  It certainly didn't make any sense to me
> either.  I removed about a 1/2" piece of outer covering
> to gain access to the wires and used phono needle probes
> to get to the wires inside.
> (Gosh, I wonder how many people now-a-days actually know
> what a phono needle really is?)
> 
> Once I saw how mine was wired I knew I was out out luck
> using it as a CI-V interface device.
> 
> Perhaps I had a cable constructed by someone anxious to
> go on their coffee break, or saki break.......... or some
> kind of break.
> 
> Jim - K5LAD
> 
> 
> ---- Gary <n6lrv at cox.net> wrote: 
> > Jim,
> > Your schematic is a bit odd. Did you actually cut open
> your cable to come up with the
> > conductor colors and the shield connection? Connecting
> the shield to pin 2 (data
> > receive) of the serial connector is very unusual.
> Usually the shield would be
> > connected to pin 5 (ground). I rung out mine without
> cutting the molded cable open and
> > found that the cable appears to be straight through
> with only data transmit (serial
> > pin 3) passing all the way through to the phone plug
> along with serial pin 5 (ground).
> > As shown in your drawing there appear to be no flow
> control jumpers on the serial
> > side. I don't see how this could be used for any Icom
> application at this time.
> > Gary
> > 
> > jpk5lad at cox.net wrote:
> > 
> > > Mac - K2GKK/5 suggested I upload the 20-249 schematic
> to my web site so here 'tis:
> > >
> > >
>
http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/download/Radio%20Shack%2020-049%20cable.JPG
> > >  or if it splits the URL try:
> > >
> > > http://tinyurl.com/3xg5zo
> > >
> > > 73,
> > > Jim - K5LAD
> > > > --
> > > > ===========================
> > > > http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/
> > >
> > > > ----- Original Message -----
> > > > From: <jpk5lad at cox.net>
> > > > To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> > > > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 6:57 PM
> > > > Subject: [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming
> Cable
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > This cable, 20-049, is for some of their scanners
> and I've not been able to
> > > > use it for any CI-V applications.  Several weeks
> ago I "wrung out" the
> > > > schematic of the 20-049 and I've offered it via
> private email to several
> > > > members on the reflector but I haven't heard back
> from any of them.  I
> > > > thought this might be helpful but evidently nobody
> wants or needs it.
> > > > Anyway, I do have a schematic of only the RS 20-049
> cable if somebody does
> > > > need it.
> > > >
> > > > 73,
> > > > Jim - K5LAD
> > > >
> > > > --
> > > > ===========================
> > > > http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/
> > > >
> > >
> > > ----
> > > Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC,
> icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
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> > 
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> 
> --
> ===========================
> http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/
> 
> 
> > From: Ed K1EP <k1ep.list at gmail.com>
> Subject: [ICOM] OPC1529 
> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 20:44:05 -0400
> To: icom at mailman.qth.net
> 
> Does anyone know what the schematic for an OPC1529 is? 
> Is it a straight cable, i.e. no level translation, or is
> it similar to a CJ-V device with some level translation? 
> 
> 
> > From: "Paul Playford" <paul at w8aef.com>
> Subject: Re: [-] [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming
> Cable
> Date: Sat, 2 Jun 2007 01:21:40 -0000
> To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> 
> I would like that schematic.  Please send it to me at
> paul at w8aef.com
> 
> de Paul, W8AEF
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: <jpk5lad at cox.net>
> To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 22:57
> Subject: [-] [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming Cable
> 
> 
> This cable, 20-049, is for some of their scanners and
> I've not been able to 
> use it for any CI-V applications.  Several weeks ago I
> "wrung out" the 
> schematic of the 20-049 and I've offered it via private
> email to several 
> members on the reflector but I haven't heard back from
> any of them.  I 
> thought this might be helpful but evidently nobody wants
> or needs it.
> Anyway, I do have a schematic of only the RS 20-049 cable
> if somebody does 
> need it.
> 
> 73,
> Jim - K5LAD
> 
> --
> ===========================
> http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/
> 
> 
> > From: "D C *Mac* Macdonald" <k2gkk at hotmail.com>
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming Cable
> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 20:28:39 -0500
> To: icom at mailman.qth.net
> 
> Jim, K5LAD, has already stated that he has now
> posted the schematic at his website.  I would
> respectfully suggest folks go there to get it.
> 
> 73 - Mac, K2GKK/5
> Oklahoma City, OK
> 
> 
> 
> > From: "Tom Crawford" <TMCsail at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [-] [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming
> Cable
> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 21:37:25 -0400
> To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> 
> Do not chase the wild goose! - HI
> It's sure easy for these things to take on a life of
> their own!!
> 
> This is my input:
> 20-049 has no purpose as an ICOM control cable.
> 
> 
> 20-289  RS-232 to CIV
> LOOKS like the above (20-049) but has circuitry in the
> RS-232 housing the 
> take care of the conversion to CIV level.
> I have used it and it works with my 746pro and 706.  This
> cable is on 
> close-out also and if you can find it, is only a couple
> of bucks.
> 
> 20-047  USB to CIV
> This cable plugs into a USB port. It comes with a driver
> (which can also be 
> download from Radio Shack web site) and works FB on both
> my rigs (as 
> mentioned above).
> 
> Take care and 73,
> Tom, W3TMC
> 
> 
> > From: dave <wpaper at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: Re: [-] [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming
> Cable
> Date: Fri, 01 Jun 2007 21:55:56 -0500
> To: ICOM Reflector <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> 
> Has anyone tried this as a programming cable for the ICOM
> VHF/UHF radio 
> line?
> 
> It appears to be the same as the ICOM cable I have for
> programming my IC 
> 2720H (3) and T90 (2) radios. Programming for the VHF/UHF
> radios is not 
> CI-V dependent.. The Radio Shack cable is quite a bit
> less expensive 
> than the Icom cable. Well worth the investment IF it
> works in that 
> application.
> 
> Dave, W5WP
> 
> 
> >
> 
> > From: <jpk5lad at cox.net>
> Subject: Re: [-] [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming
> Cable
> CC: 
> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 20:24:01 -0700
> To: ICOM Reflector <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> 
> Hi Paul -- 
> 
>
http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/download/Radio%20Shack%2020-049%20cable.JPG
> 
>    or if it splits the URL try: 
>  
> http://tinyurl.com/3xg5zo 
> 
> 73, 
> Jim - K5LAD 
>  -- 
>  =========================== 
> http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/ 
> 
> 
> ---- Paul Playford <paul at w8aef.com> wrote: 
> > I would like that schematic.  Please send it to me at
> paul at w8aef.com
> > 
> > de Paul, W8AEF
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: <jpk5lad at cox.net>
> > To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> > Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 22:57
> > Subject: [-] [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming
> Cable
> > 
> > 
> > This cable, 20-049, is for some of their scanners and
> I've not been able to 
> > use it for any CI-V applications.  Several weeks ago I
> "wrung out" the 
> > schematic of the 20-049 and I've offered it via private
> email to several 
> > members on the reflector but I haven't heard back from
> any of them.  I 
> > thought this might be helpful but evidently nobody
> wants or needs it.
> > Anyway, I do have a schematic of only the RS 20-049
> cable if somebody does 
> > need it.
> > 
> > 73,
> > Jim - K5LAD
> > 
> > --
> > ===========================
> > http://www.hayseed.net/~jpk5lad/
> 
> 
> > From: "AD5PE" <ad5pe at sbcglobal.net>
> Subject: RE: [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming Cable
> Date: Fri, 1 Jun 2007 23:01:16 -0500
> To: "'ICOM Reflector'" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> 
> It's a TTL converter, but of an inferior design.  Go to
> www.starrsoft.com
> and look for the link to "cables" - links to several
> commercials, a couple
> of good home brew designs, and a detailed explanation of
> why this one
> sometimes doesn't work (hint - whoever designed it made
> some assumptions
> about comm port voltage levels that are common (on
> desktops) but not
> "standard" (so it won't work with most laptops, some
> desktops and the vast
> majority of USB-serial converters.
> 
> Jay
> AD5PE 
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On
> Behalf Of k0bx at arrl.net
> Sent: Friday, June 01, 2007 16:51
> To: ICOM Reflector
> Subject: [ICOM] Radio Shack 20-049 Programming Cable
> 
> I went over to RS and bought the last one that had.  I
> hooked it up to my
> IC-756PRO3.  But it didn't work??
> 
> I wonder if this is a RS-232 to TTL converter?  IT seems
> like it is a
> straight cable.
> 
> I also need to know if I need a adapter to go from stereo
> to 2 pin mono??
> 
> Yes the comport is working.  I have another cable that
> works fine in the
> same port to the same rig.
> 
> Joe K0BX
> 
> 
> --- AA6DX - Mark <aa6dx at arrl.net> wrote:
> 
> > Howdy group.. we've had chats on the reflector here
> about the RS 
> > cable, 1/8"
> > mono to serial, for programming scanners and... for
> ICOM users ... a 
> > way to connect your CAT rcvr/xcvr to your computer.
> > Anyway, I have ONE somewhere
> > in my stuff ... it works swell ... but I misplaced it
> and was looking 
> > for to buy one of these on close-out at local Radio
> Shacks.
> >  Closest one that one
> > in stock was in Fortuna, a 50+ mile round trip from
> > my QTH.   Was there 
> > today, went in and the young man immediately went to
> the rack and 
> > handed me on, the yellow sale tag said $1.97  -- so ...
> I said, "are 
> > there any more?"
> > and he said, why yes, here's 2 more!  So I took them
> > all.    "BUT WAIT" --  
> > Here's the kicker ... at checkout, it turns out that RS
> has, thru June 
> > 3rd, an additional 30% off Yellow Tag items .. so .. my
> cost, each .. 
> > $1.38!
> > Even with CA sales tax, my total was $4.44 FOR ALL
> > THREE!   Me be happy  --  
> > best get on RS site and put your zip code and see if
> you can get 
> > before they are all gone! The 3 RS stores local were
> plumb out.
> > I have 3 or 4 scanners
> > that use the same cable, too, as well as 2M /
> > Duobander handhelds.   Here's 
> > URL for the item ...
> > http://tinyurl.com/3c5ct5
> > Let us know if you find some!
> > 
> > 73
> > Mark Nelson  -  AA6DX
> > 
> > AA6DX at ARRL.NET
> > 
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