[ICOM] 7000 hitting the stores
Jay Eimer
ad5pe at familynet.net
Sun Nov 20 10:59:16 EST 2005
One more vote for "how will you use it?" being the first question in answer
to anyone saying "what rig should I buy?".
I do satellite at home, and have V/UHF all mode there. On the other hand, I
have no interest in setting up for sats in my vehicle. I want HF (ragchew,
dx and light contest) at home, and V/U for sat work and local repeaters (so
my wife and kids can check in from around town, etc.) That's accomplished
with the sat rig, the HF rig, and a dual band FM mobile set up for base ops
(to keep it simple for them).
In the mobile, I want HF (ragchew only, except for maybe an occasional
county hunter or state while mobile activation) and V/U FM only for public
service events and storm spotting, plus the "check in with the wife and kids
while I'm out and about in town".
You all have talked me right out of any flavor of 706, and most likely a
7000 as well. I might use an FT-100 but I'd never put it on V/U anyway.
Otherwise, sounds like a TS480.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On
Behalf Of Doug Faunt N6TQS +1-510-655-8604
Sent: Sunday, November 20, 2005 00:28
To: icom at mailman.qth.net
Cc: icom at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [ICOM] 7000 hitting the stores
Ah, but the 7000 (like the 706's) is an all-mode VHF/UHF rig. For me, that
means satellite work- others will use it for contesting.
I already have four bands of FM in my mobile rig- it won't replace them.
73, doug
From: "Jay Eimer" <ad5pe at familynet.net>
Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 22:01:25 -0600
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I don't think I want an "all in one box" anyway. I like having my
dual-receive dual-bander for storm spotting, so I think I'd rather have
an
"HF only" mobile in addition instead of a DC-daylight instead of.
Jay
-----Original Message-----
From: icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On
Behalf Of Marty
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 16:27
To: 'ICOM Reflector'
Subject: RE: [ICOM] 7000 hitting the stores
The TS-480 or DX-70 HF radios don't have 2m/440 so I don't see them as
major
competitors to the FT-857, IC-706 and IC-7000. The FT-857 is quite
sophisticated in features and I'm hearing a lot of talk on the air from
previous 706 owners who like some of the features in the 857 they didn't
have in the 706. At $700 current price it's bound to cut into the Icom
market. Of course prices can and will change.
Marty
-----Original Message-----
From: icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On
Behalf Of Jay Eimer
Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 12:46 AM
To: 'ICOM Reflector'
Subject: RE: [ICOM] 7000 hitting the stores
The 7000 may "eventually" replace the 706, but only if Icom quits making
the
706. The reason being is there are substantial differences in the specs
on
the two radios. There's no reason why Icom couldn't have two HF mobiles,
one "average" (as HF mobiles go) to compete with the Yaesu 857 and the
Kenwood TS-480 or the Alinco DX-70 (I think that's the right model) and
then
pitch the 7000 as "for those who want a little more performance". Then
again, it's just as likely that they'll decide they don't sell enough
mobile
HF rigs to warrant maintaining production lines for both.
Regarding prices, though - that's another story. There's two factors
that a
lot of people miss when it comes to buying technology or buying something
made in a foreign country.
1. Tech (chip) prices
2. Exchange Rates
For an example of "tech" prices - people that don't by hi tech all the
time
don't realize what happens with the price of chips and related
electronics.
Here's a classic example - there is more power in the DSP chip of my $40
SOUND CARD in the computer I'm using to type this email than there was in
my
$4000 Z-248 80286 machine made c.1989. The hard disk of that dinosaur
was
$2000 for 20MB. Now, I carry 2GB (1000 times more storage) on a USB
drive
in my shirt pocket.
I saw that happen today with a listing on QRZ - someone was listing a 15
year old, brand that no longer exists 2m FM mobile and pointed out that
it
cost $350 new. But it has 10 memories and 1 CTCSS tone (unless you open
the
case and flip the switches to set another) so all repeaters have to use
the
same one. Now, that radio might have been a Cadillac in its day - but I
can
buy 5 different 2m only mobile models for <$150, all with 100's of
memories,
modern features, modern electronics, and a warranty.
For exchange rates, I've seen that one, too. If you keep your old
catalogs
or QSTs, check this one out. In 1999 the Yen was high, and a TS-570D
went
for >$1000. In 2002 the Yen was low, and the exact same radio went for
$700
- and I saw one on QRZ for sale (used) for $900 (the ad said "like new -
only 10 hours transmit - paid over $1200" so evidently the exchange rate
(or
the chips) had been higher still, but that's as far back as my QSTs go).
But still, $200 over new? But look again - the Yen is high again vs. the
dollar, and the 570 is back over $1000! Makes you think the biggest
factor
in radio sales should be the exchange rate. Then again, makes ME think
it's
time to buy a tower (made in America) and buy the radio when the exchange
rate flips again.
My 2¢
Jay
AD5PE
-----Original Message-----
From: icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net]
On
Behalf Of Paul Gates, KD3JF
Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 19:27
To: ICOM Reflector
Subject: Re: [ICOM] 7000 hitting the stores
For what's it worth John last year I got a 706MKIIG for $640.00.. Now I
see
most dealers are asking $899.00. Probably the 7000 will take the place of
the 706. What do ya think?
Paul, KD3JF Maryland
--- John Geiger <ne0p at lcisp.com> wrote:
> The Icom 7000 has been type accepted and several stores are taking
> orders for delivery at the end of the month. Price is $1499, which
> isn't bad considering the 1999 AES catalog has the 706MKIIG selling
> for $1399.
>
> 73s John NE0P
>
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