[ICOM] 7000 hitting the stores

Sun Nov 20 01:27:32 EST 2005

Ah, but the 7000 (like the 706's) is an all-mode VHF/UHF rig.  For me,
that means satellite work- others will use it for contesting.
I already have four bands of FM in my mobile rig- it won't replace
them.

73, doug

   From: "Jay Eimer" <ad5pe at familynet.net>
   Date: Sat, 19 Nov 2005 22:01:25 -0600
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   I don't think I want an "all in one box" anyway.  I like having my
   dual-receive dual-bander for storm spotting, so I think I'd rather have an
   "HF only" mobile in addition instead of a DC-daylight instead of.

   Jay 

   -----Original Message-----
   From: icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On
   Behalf Of Marty
   Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 16:27
   To: 'ICOM Reflector'
   Subject: RE: [ICOM] 7000 hitting the stores

   The TS-480 or DX-70 HF radios don't have 2m/440 so I don't see them as major
   competitors to the FT-857, IC-706 and IC-7000. The FT-857 is quite
   sophisticated in features and I'm hearing a lot of talk on the air from
   previous 706 owners who like some of the features in the 857 they didn't
   have in the 706. At $700 current price it's bound to cut into the Icom
   market. Of course prices can and will change.

   Marty

   -----Original Message-----
   From: icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On
   Behalf Of Jay Eimer
   Sent: Saturday, November 19, 2005 12:46 AM
   To: 'ICOM Reflector'
   Subject: RE: [ICOM] 7000 hitting the stores

   The 7000 may "eventually" replace the 706, but only if Icom quits making the
   706.  The reason being is there are substantial differences in the specs on
   the two radios.  There's no reason why Icom couldn't have two HF mobiles,
   one "average" (as HF mobiles go) to compete with the Yaesu 857 and the
   Kenwood TS-480 or the Alinco DX-70 (I think that's the right model) and then
   pitch the 7000 as "for those who want a little more performance".  Then
   again, it's just as likely that they'll decide they don't sell enough mobile
   HF rigs to warrant maintaining production lines for both.

   Regarding prices, though - that's another story.  There's two factors that a
   lot of people miss when it comes to buying technology or buying something
   made in a foreign country.

   1.  Tech (chip) prices
   2.  Exchange Rates

   For an example of "tech" prices - people that don't by hi tech all the time
   don't realize what happens with the price of chips and related electronics.
   Here's a classic example - there is more power in the DSP chip of my $40
   SOUND CARD in the computer I'm using to type this email than there was in my
   $4000 Z-248 80286 machine made c.1989.  The hard disk of that dinosaur was
   $2000 for 20MB.  Now, I carry 2GB (1000 times more storage) on a USB drive
   in my shirt pocket.

   I saw that happen today with a listing on QRZ - someone was listing a 15
   year old, brand that no longer exists 2m FM mobile and pointed out that it
   cost $350 new.  But it has 10 memories and 1 CTCSS tone (unless you open the
   case and flip the switches to set another) so all repeaters have to use the
   same one.  Now, that radio might have been a Cadillac in its day - but I can
   buy 5 different 2m only mobile models for <$150, all with 100's of memories,
   modern features, modern electronics, and a warranty.

   For exchange rates, I've seen that one, too.  If you keep your old catalogs
   or QSTs, check this one out.  In 1999 the Yen was high, and a TS-570D went
   for >$1000.  In 2002 the Yen was low, and the exact same radio went for $700
   - and I saw one on QRZ for sale (used) for $900 (the ad said "like new -
   only 10 hours transmit - paid over $1200" so evidently the exchange rate (or
   the chips) had been higher still, but that's as far back as my QSTs go).
   But still, $200 over new?  But look again - the Yen is high again vs. the
   dollar, and the 570 is back over $1000!  Makes you think the biggest factor
   in radio sales should be the exchange rate.  Then again, makes ME think it's
   time to buy a tower (made in America) and buy the radio when the exchange
   rate flips again.

   My 2¢

   Jay
   AD5PE

   -----Original Message-----
   From: icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On
   Behalf Of Paul Gates, KD3JF
   Sent: Friday, November 18, 2005 19:27
   To: ICOM Reflector
   Subject: Re: [ICOM] 7000 hitting the stores

   For what's it worth John last year I got a 706MKIIG for $640.00.. Now I see
   most dealers are asking $899.00. Probably the 7000 will take the place of
   the 706. What do ya think?
   Paul, KD3JF Maryland

   --- John Geiger <ne0p at lcisp.com> wrote:

   > The Icom 7000 has been type accepted and several stores are taking 
   > orders for delivery at the end of the month.  Price is $1499, which 
   > isn't bad considering the 1999 AES catalog has the 706MKIIG selling 
   > for $1399.
   > 
   > 73s John NE0P
   > 
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