[ICOM] IC-775DSP - KeyerHELP PSE wiring idea

Sat Aug 13 11:43:52 EDT 2005

Malcom,

I didn't read the text associated with the link I sent.  I just wanted to find a
picture of my keyer and have you confirm or deny that the picture matched the
keyer you have.

You use this keyer like a bug, manually moving the paddle to make each "dah" if
you desire.  Not a real "bug" but close.  I'll have to check the menu on my
IC-746 to see if it has a "bug" setting.

I'll be happy to discuss the wiring of the cable.

I learned on a straight key then got a traditional VibroPlex bug ( I should have
kept it!).  I tried iambic but was not comfortable with it so I went with the
VibroKeyer because it was similar to the bug.

Ken, WA2LBI

Quoting Malcolm Ringel <mringel at bluecrab.org>:

> Ken: Thanks and yes, I use the Vibrokeyer. Regardless of what Universal
> Radio's text says, the unit is to opearte as a Vibroplex "Bug" did, which I
> am pretty certain is auto dits and solid dah.
> I mean this was to keep/appeal to people who did not want to re-learn to
> "iambic " style (which I never did).
> As I noted (somewhere), the PRO series, including the current III each have
> what is labelled a "BUG" setting which appears in the manual and in the
> electronic menu. Set to "BUG" on the PRO, PROII, and my present PROIII, the
> Vibrokeyer does just exactly that, i.e. adjustable speed automatic dits to
> the right and steady dah to the left, regardless of what speed the dits are
> set to.
> Aaaaaaany way, thanks you for taking time to share your thoughts on the
> subject. It appears as if I am going to have to make it work right through
> non-standard external wiring to/at the key plug, as you suggest. May I get
> back with you regarding your suggestion ?
> BTW: Did you ever use a traditional bug ? or did you learn on iambic ?
> Straight key ?
> Thanks again & 73
> Malcolm, K3KZ
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Ken, WA2LBI" <wa2lbi at frontiernet.net>
> To: <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Saturday, August 13, 2005 7:26 AM
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] IC-775DSP - KeyerHELP PSE wiring idea
>
>
> > Malcom,
> >
> > Unless I missed it, you have not identified the type of VibroPlex keyer
> > you
> > have.  Is it a VibroKeyer?  A quick "Google" turned up the following site
> > with
> > a picture of the VibroKeyer:
> > http://www.universal-radio.com/catalog/morse/4055.html
> >
> > Is the pictured keyer the one you have? If so, it is a single lever paddle
> > intended to be used with an electronic keyer to produce both automatic
> > "dits"
> > and "dahs".  I use one on my '775.  It sends automatic "dits" to the right
> > and
> > automatic "dahs" to the left.  There is no setting for the manual "dah"
> > mode
> > you describe.  My menu settings are the same as Hans uses.
> >
> > I don't understand why you would want to manually produce the "dahs" and
> > automatically produce the "dits" when using an electronic keyer but I
> > agree
> > with the split cable suggestion provided by Larry.  If you use this
> > approach I
> > would wire up a "Y" cable with a mono plug for the manual jack and a
> > stereo
> > plug for the electronic keyer jack so you can easily determine the proper
> > connections.  The two plugs would terminate in a stereo jack so you can
> > use the
> > existing plug on the keyer.
> >
> > 73,
> >
> > Ken, WA2LBI
> >
> > Quoting Malcolm Ringel <mringel at bluecrab.org>:
> >
> >> Hey Larry ....and thanks for that suggestion ....it may well be an end
> >> solution, as I am "unlearnable" at this stage on the squeeze
> >> techniques....I
> >> guess I could also simply use my J-38, but I would rather that be
> >> voluntary,
> >> if you know what I mean.
> >> I am truly stymied (not the first time!), as this is not supposed to be
> >> all
> >> that difficult ....
> >>
> >> Thanks again.......73, Malcolm. K3KZ
> >> ----- Original Message -----
> >> From: "Larry Winslow" <larry_w at comcast.net>
> >> To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> >> Sent: Friday, August 12, 2005 5:15 PM
> >> Subject: Re: [ICOM] IC-775DSP - KeyerHELP PSE
> >>
> >>
> >> > If all else fails, you could disconnect the "dah" lead from the
> >> > "electronic key" plug and wire it to a plug to go to the manual key
> >> > jack.
> >> > It's crude but should accomplish what you're looking for.
> >> >
> >> > 73 - Larry WØNFU
> >> > larry_w at comcast.net
> >> >
> >> >
> >> > At 01:51 PM 8/12/2005, you wrote:
> >> >
> >> >>Hans and the group:
> >> >>This setting does not do it...."paddle" (n for normal) gives me
> >> >>automatic
> >> >>"dits" to the right and automatic "dahs" to the left.
> >> >>I have used this paddle for years and it works FB on the PRO, PRO II
> >> >>and
> >> >>PRO III, each of which has a "bug" setting in its menu. It may be that
> >> >>the
> >> >>775 simply does not have that bug (or some equivalent) setting, as I
> >> >>sure
> >> >>can't find it , H I. ...although that would somehow be surprising.
> >> >>Any further thoughts from anyone ? Could it be that the 775 requires a
> >> >>different plug configuration ? I don't think so ... but any ideas ?
> >> >>My paddle is NOT an iambic squeeze, but a modern Vibroplex which is
> >> >>designed to act as the old type bug...i.e. thumb on paddle to the right
> >> >>produces an automatic series of "dits" and forefinger on the paddle to
> >> >>the
> >> >>left produces a solid unbroken tone , i.e. an extended "dah" that stays
> >> >>until I release the contact.
> >> >>Any advice on this would be greatly appreciated.
> >> >>Thanks & 73
> >> >>Malcolm Ringel, K3KZ
> >> >>
> >> >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Hans Remeeus" <hans at remeeus.nl>
> >> >>To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> >> >>Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 2:01 AM
> >> >>Subject: Re: [ICOM] IC-775DSP - Keyer Polarity
> >> >>
> >> >>
> >> >>>Hallo Malcolm,
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Push [SET] shortly;
> >> >>>If you are in a Sub Menu first push [ENT] to enter the main menu of
> >> >>>the
> >> >>>P-set mode;
> >> >>>Push [DOWN] or [UP] until you see [PUSH SEt ] left & [ELECSEt] right
> >> >>>on
> >> >>>the display;
> >> >>>Push [SET];
> >> >>>Push [DOWN] or [UP] until you see [PAdLE] right on the display;
> >> >>>Turn the Main Dial to set the value between [r] which means reversed
> >> >>>or
> >> >>>[n] which means normal;
> >> >>>Push [ENT] to exit the Sub menu and again [ENT] to exit the Main menu;
> >> >>>That's all.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>Good luck and enjoy your IC-775DSP (great analoge rig)!
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>73, Hans Remeeus (PA1HR)
> >> >>>http://www.remeeus.nl
> >> >>>Communication is about people, the rest is technology.
> >> >>>
> >> >>>
> >> >>>---- Original Message ----
> >> >>>From: "Malcolm Ringel" <mringel at bluecrab.org>
> >> >>>To: <we1x at comcast.net>
> >> >>>Cc: <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> >> >>>Sent: Tuesday, August 09, 2005 6:59 AM
> >> >>>Subject: Re: [ICOM] Want Icom R8500
> >> >>>
> >> >>>>BTW, yes, I did buy the 775 and really like it. It is so "retro" in
> >> >>>>so many ways, particularly for me, as I haven't had a BIG radio since
> >> >>>>my FT1000D some 8-10 years ago.
> >> >>>>Q on 775: I use a bug-style keyer, IOW, push left on keyer paddle
> >> >>>>gives steady unbroken "dah" and push right gives "dits" of variable
> >> >>>>lengths, speed, etc.
> >> >>>>All of my recent radios Icom & Yaesu have had an internal menu
> >> >>>>setting in the keyer sub-menu which, for example in my PROIII and
> >> >>>>PROII I think it actually says "bug".
> >> >>>>I cannot find it in the 775 or any specific reference to it in the
> >> >>>>manual. Can you help ??? Can any list member help ?
> >> >>>>Thanks
> >> >>>>Malcolm, K3KZ
> >> >>>
> >
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