[ICOM] 7800 vs. PROIII vs?

[Jan C. Robbins]

Hi Malcolm,
Please don't "shut up" when you're making such good sense! Hope I didn't 
lead you to think i thought otherwise.

Like you, I hear more about Icoms than any other rigs, but that's 
because I've owned them for years and  been around a lot of other Icom 
owners(why we're on this reflector, nicht wahr?).  But I talk to a lot 
of (a) contesters and (b) European DXers, and in those groups the only 
Icom taken seriously (for good reason in my opinion) is the 775.  The 
Orion gets top billing.  And as to the "urban myth" that Orions are 
unreliable, try telling that to the top-score multi-multi contesters who 
traded in their Omnis (perhaps the most reliable contest rigs ever 
built), not to mention their MK V's, for Orions. ON4UN would have a good 
laugh about the "unreliability" claim.

More generally, there are no doubt LOTS of different reasons for valuing 
particular radios.  My own tests are: (1) which will let me dig deepest 
into the noise  and (2) which deepest into the pileups (the guy on the 
other end doesn't know or care what I'm transmitting on).  I own 775s 
and see no evidence the 7800 could do any better on those scores, but 
the Orion might, though probably not enough to make me spend $4K.  On 
the other hand, a 756PROII lasted one week here; the 775s ran rings 
around it.  Ditto a K2, though that is a VERY nice toy.

Once again. Vy Happy Holidays to All!  You keep the hobby alive and fun 
for an old geezer, even after 46 years as a ham.

vy 73, jan

Malcolm Ringel wrote:
> Jan:  Thanks for the info ...that's why I posed the question. My clearly
> unscientific surmise was based not on "data", but on my personal observation
> that I almost never hear anyone discussing their Ten-Tec products, whereas
> Icom is often a hot topic.
> It may well be that I am listening to different people/in different areas or
> simply a matter of timing.
> Frankly, I wish there were a dozen top-end rigs, all from different healthy
> manufacturers, with the resulting competitive improvements which would
> surely result.
> Geeez...why can't I just shut up.
> Best wishes from the Maryland Eastern Shore
> 
> Malcolm, K3KZ
> 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Jan C. Robbins" <swanman at cfu.net>
> To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 10:51 AM
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] 7800 vs. PROIII vs?
> 
> 
> 
>>I'd be curious to know why one might think the Orion "doesn't sell
>>nearly as well" as, say, the 7800.  The data I've seen suggest the Orion
>>is selling better than any other top-of-the-line transceiver has in the
>>last decade, given its limited supply schedule.  It would be doing a
>>great deal better if supply could begin to keep up with worldwide
>>demand, which so far it can't.
>>
>>As to the comparisons, at least half a dozen independent testing
>>operations rate the Orion higher than the 7800, not one the other way
>>round.  The margins vary, of course.
>>
>>73 Jan
>>
>>Malcolm Ringel wrote:
>>
>>
>>>Why, then, do you suppose they (Ten-Tec Orions) do not sell nearly as
> 
> well
> 
>>>as the Icom products ? This is not offered as a "smart remark" , just
>>>genuine curiosity.
>>>As always, 73 to most.
>>>Malcolm Ringel, K3KZ
>>>St. Michaels, MD
>>>
>>>----- Original Message ----- 
>>>From: <N8GMB at aol.com>
>>>To: <icom at mailman.qth.net>
>>>Sent: Friday, December 24, 2004 10:30 AM
>>>Subject: Re: [ICOM] 7800 vs. PROIII vs?
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>>The Ten-Tec Orion according to the tests and reviews I have read out
>>>
>>>performs
>>>
>>>
>>>>easily the 7800 under difficult conditions, for a fraction of the price
> 
> of
> 
>>>>the Icom...
>>>>
>>>>Chuck
>>>>n8gmb
>>>>----
>>>>Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
>>>>Win a new Icom IC-756 PRO III and help QSL/QTH.net
>>>>Details at: http://mailman.qth.net/
>>>>
>>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>----
>>>Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
>>>Win a new Icom IC-756 PRO III and help QSL/QTH.net
>>>Details at: http://mailman.qth.net/
>>>
>>>
>>
>>-- 
>>"There is no end to what you can accomplish
>>if you don't care who gets the credit."   Anon.
>>
>>----
>>Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
>>Win a new Icom IC-756 PRO III and help QSL/QTH.net
>>Details at: http://mailman.qth.net/
>>
>>
> 
> 
> 
> ----
> Your Moderator: Dick Flanagan K7VC, icom-owner at mailman.qth.net
> Win a new Icom IC-756 PRO III and help QSL/QTH.net
> Details at: http://mailman.qth.net/
> 
> 

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"There is no end to what you can accomplish
if you don't care who gets the credit."   Anon.