[ICOM] New Pro III - Hold On Guys!

Sun Aug 22 08:41:48 EDT 2004

Bill......Hi Bill...Dave here (you may remember you sold me on the Santa
Fe!!).
You are mistaken on one item that I will tell you about.

I am not married to any one brand rig. I love my PRO, but in several
respects, it takes a back seat to the 1000D.

Recently, I spoke to TenTec and asked them about the Jupiter. They came
right out and told me
that it is a toy compared to the older Omni series (V VI and VI+).

I purchased an OMNI V, and liked it so much that I sold it and got an OMNI
VI+ and later picked up a Argonaut V.

Way back when I bought a new TS830S, I looked at Ten Tec and thought the
build quality was kind-of MFJ like. But, I always wanted to try one.

In short, if you operate any CW, what you have heard is correct. The Ten Tec
comes out ahead.
Compared to the OMNI VI+ (and Argonaut V) the 756Pro does not even have QSK.
The Ten Tec just does it so much better!

I view the Ten Tec as lower technology than the YaeComWoods.
That is why I purchased two of them.

There are still some things about the 756Pro that I have to refer to the
manual. That is why you see all these little referance cards for sale.

Looking at my PC sound card spectrum analyzer, there is no rig that has such
steep skirts on the filter shapes as the 756Pro line.

But there is also no rig as easy and comfortable to use...LARGE readout,
easy access to keyer speed, notch, AGC etc. as the Ten Tec. And, as I said..
the QSK is light years ahead of any other rig. So, if by chance you like
CW...the Ten Tec performs better than a PRO.

So, there is no one best rig...they each have their merits. Listening to a
QSO on SSB, I still prefer my KWM2A over all of them!!

.....Dave

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "William Diamond" <wjdiamond at sbcglobal.net>
To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, August 22, 2004 12:21 AM
Subject: RE: [ICOM] New Pro III - Hold On Guys!

> In a very, very weak moment, possibly brought on by the number of new
drugs
> that I am on, I was going to order a new Onion but the attitude of the Ten
> Tec people with their 'holier than thou" preface totally turned me off to
> zero on their products.
>
> Had they then been available a couple of weeks back I would have one but
> they were running about 12++++ weeks wait for them.
>
> When I asked why, I was told "well, if you want the most advanced, sought
> after radio in the world today" you just have to wait for it.
>
> I then considered a Jupiter but they were not avail either.    I did some
> calling around to the various dealers about a used one but I could not
find
> a single dealer that would even take one on trade, much less resell one.
> Without one single exception they ALL told me that if you buy one be
> prepared to take it to the grave with you because you will never trade it
> off to anyone but Ten Tec.
>
> With that in mind, a friend lo0aned me a Jupiter for a few days to try out
> and I am glad he did.  It is a pure piece of junk.
>
> It looks like, acts like and feels like as well as performs like something
a
> 12 year old Boy scout would build for a merit badge project from a kit.
> Very similar to some of the MFJ and old Heath stuff.
>
> It is just so far in the past that I can't believe they could even get FCC
> acceptance....
>
> Their attitude is what I have always believed helped kill Collins in the
Ham
> market. Back when Collins was screaming, we have the most advanced radios
in
> the world and you had better buy ours, Trio Kenwood snuck in the TS 520
and
> the rest of the story is history.  This was a Pearl Harbor from which
there
> was no recovery. Icom, Kenwood and Yaesu have advanced so far that
Ten-Tec,
> Collins and the like could never catch up if they worked 80 hours a day
600
> hours a week.
>
> Yes, I am one of the "old timers" who hated foreign for years but over the
> last several years, I have Icom, Kenwood and Yaesu ham gear and instead of
> the big 3 in cars, I drive Hyundai Santa Fe's.  Why?, quality and value
and
> they fill my needs nicely.
>
> The drugs talking? , no my head just got cleared out a little bit and
reset.
> Hi Hi
>
>            WILLIAM J. DIAMOND
>           ROGERS, ARKANSAS USA
>
>         HAM RADIO OPERATOR WRØT
>  VISIT MY NEW RADIO ROOM REVISED 7-04, AT
>            www.wjdiamond.com
>
>        DIGITAL PHOTOGRAPHY SITE IS AT
> http://pages.sbcglobal.net/wjdiamond/index.html
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:icom-bounces at mailman.qth.net]On Behalf Of Icom 765
> Sent: Saturday, August 21, 2004 8:05 PM
> To: icom at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [ICOM] New Pro III - Hold On Guys!
>
>
> I have to agree with your logic Dave.  Mine is a little different.  I
cannot
> see any reason to upgrade from my IC 765.  Not to throw gas on the fire,
> but, pick a contest day ... anyone here in the US.  Put a 765 on the table
> with say any of the newer Icoms (I don't want to pick on any particular
> one).  Add a TenTec Jupiter ... then decide which one you think is better.
> Could be a VERY hard choice depending what your operating style is and
what
> you like.
>
> 73, Mike
>
>
> >From: "Dave Edwards" <kd2e at comcast.net>
> >Reply-To: ICOM Reflector <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> >To: "ICOM Reflector" <icom at mailman.qth.net>
> >Subject: Re: [ICOM] New Pro III - Hold On Guys!
> >Date: Sat, 21 Aug 2004 16:05:01 -0400
> >
> >But I am not sure how I lose a ton of money, and how Icom will make more
> >money.
> >My Pro works great, and I see no reason to trade up.
> >If there was a circuit which caused my Pro to self-destruct  when the Pro
2
> >came out, well...that would then be a money making scheme (to say the
> >least!!)
> >...Dave
>
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