[Heathkit] BAMA and Heathkit docs???

[Duane Fischer, W8DBF]

Hi Larry,

I "do NOT" want to reignite the all consuming no-fault filament free flames 
of the vacuum tube lovers who truly know a reel radio from a REAL radio! So 
just several contrite, concise and hopefully helpful thoughts on the tender 
topic of manuals and other things your female ancestory never told you prior 
to age thirty.

Some months ago, the astute super electronic tech known as G. Zook, wrote a 
number of very fact packed, and also legally accurate, posts concerning 
published documents, such as an article purchased by a publishing house or 
being donated to said publisher by its author, then appearing in print in an 
electronics magazine and the related copyright laws, author's rights etc. 
Mr. Zook also extended this treatise to include previously published radio 
manuals supplied with an item at the time of its purchase, such as a 
Heathkit HW-30.

Then Mr. Zook provided more candid discussions on an individuals legal 
rights to reprint and sell for profit, sell for production cost only or 
photocopy, or scan and do some desktop publishing provided free to 
interested parties.

All in all, Glen did an excellent job of covering a topic with more niches 
then a temporarily befuddled mother trying to sort out the party guilty of 
pulverizing her imported Italian stained glass window pane as each child 
points a fault free - not I! - finger at the "real" guilty doer of "bet yur 
gonna get grounded like forever!" window waster! But mom's know. It isn't 
magical, psychic or from the local newspapers astrological column 
enlightening all about ascending house cusps or Aunt Garter's green tea 
leaves from some dark and mystic shop in China! Well, those leaves used to 
be kind of green ... Fifty some years later though they do have a heavy hint 
of Autumn leaf rot brown to them!

Please take the time to go to the HHI web site, (Halligan's Hallicrafters 
International), and use the 'search' feature. Locate the posts by Glen about 
copyrights and so forth. Then do a cut/paste into MS Word, or whatever makes 
your bits byte, edit out the greater then symbols, totally bizarre 
characters and symbols, left justify the document and so forth. Then title 
the document with a name that you can remember! Save it to several folders, 
or to us who still believe in the Ether Bunny and DOS and ASCII, to what 
'real' computer wizards refer to as a "directory"!

Now 'before' you exit Word Pad, or whatever by whomever that works 
sometimes, but always never, load up the Laser printer or Ink Jet printer or 
even the old IBM Pro Printer with 24? pins for its dot matrix character 
generation and print several hard copies of this valuable series of posts! 
Yes! Print more then one! Then please be sure to send the old blind wonder 
here a hard copy so I do not have to edit it by ear!

Thank you Mr. Zook! Now listen up guys! This is darn good stuff, so do what 
I suggest. It will be time well spent.

Duane Fischer, W8DBF

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Larry WA9VRH" <wa9vrh at dishmail.net>
To: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>; "Tom Chesek" <tchesek at epix.net>; 
"heathkit at mailman.qth.nt" <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 8:11 PM
Subject: Re: [Heathkit] BAMA and Heathkit docs???


> Hi Tom, Carl, and all,
>
> First no flames just a suggestion. I know it's to late for the Heathkit 
> manuals but maybe someone should take up the cause to research out who 
> owns the copyrights to Johnson, Eico, Hammurland, etc. I would guess if 
> the proper owners were found the permission to scan and reproduce manuals 
> without any charge could be agreed upon for almost any of these equipment 
> manufacturers.
>
> The Collins Collectors Association did just that with Rockwell Collins 
> almost 10 years ago. Since the original agreement was signed some 
> additions have been added to it. One of those was the Collins Broadcast 
> equipment that is becoming more popular along with the broadcast consoles 
> and other related equipment.
>
> However you will have to have someone that is dedicated to scanning and 
> archiving these files.
>
> Just my thoughts. I have done my part and don't need any more workload 
> however I would be happy to scan any of the various manuals that I have in 
> the general amateur line that I have. Some Gonset, Harvey Wells, RME, etc.
>
> 73 Larry WA9VRH
>
> That would give
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>
> To: "Tom Chesek" <tchesek at epix.net>; "heathkit at mailman.qth.nt" 
> <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 6:28 PM
> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] BAMA and Heathkit docs???
>
>
>> Nicely said Tom.
>>
>> A few on here dont realize the years we have had access to that free info 
>> on several venues. Its like telling that old man he cant drive any longer 
>> after he passed his tests with flying colors.
>>
>> Also the US was founded on civil disobedience so I have a clear 
>> conscience with whatever path I take.. Jeez, never thought I would start 
>> sounding like a smelly 60's hippie war protester!
>>
>> I wonder how libraries get around the copyright hassle since you can copy 
>> just about anything available without stating a purpose.
>>
>> Maybe every university needs a Heathkit data base for reference and 
>> research.
>>
>> Carl
>> KM1H
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>> From: "Tom Chesek" <tchesek at epix.net>
>> To: "heathkit at mailman.qth.nt" <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 2:43 PM
>> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] BAMA and Heathkit docs???
>>
>>
>>> But if you left your old worn out car in a field and let everyone's kids 
>>> play in it for years and then some cranky old man bought the old worn 
>>> out car and started charging those kids admission to play in the car 
>>> would you blame the kids for being annoyed?  Yes, the old man has those 
>>> legal rights but we have our right to be annoyed!
>>>
>>> Tom K3TVC
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "Jim Brannigan" <jbrannig at optonline.net>
>>> To: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com>; "Larry WA9VRH" 
>>> <wa9vrh at dishmail.net>; "Carl" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>; "Dan Pividal" 
>>> <dpividal at tampabay.rr.com>; "heathkit at mailman.qth.nt" 
>>> <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, January 15, 2009 2:30 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] BAMA and Heathkit docs???
>>>
>>>
>>>> Nicely said Duane.
>>>> Most people don't realize that intellectual property is an asset, like 
>>>> any other.
>>>> If someone were to take your car and drive it (even to a foreign 
>>>> country) it is theft and all the bad mouthing and vitriol does not 
>>>> change it.
>>>>
>>>> Jim
>>>
>>>
>>
>
>
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