[Heathkit] Paint gun for boat anchors

Fri Apr 13 16:11:03 EDT 2007

Chill Carl. Don't let those manifold flames scorch your shorts guy! No sense 
in burning an intake vale or blowing a head gasket over this stuff. As the 
song says: "Wind it up, blow it out, little GTO etc."

Sooner or later, those who over rev either their motor or their mouth, find 
a rod seeking low Earth orbit!

So Carl, what kind of radio in the Hot Rods, custom machines or almost 
street legal machines?

Duane Fischer, W8DBF/WPE8CXO
dfischer at usol.com
HHI: Halligan's Hallicrafters International
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HHRP: Historic Halligan Radio Project
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----- Original Message ----- 
From: "jeremy-ca" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>
To: "C E" <catman351 at yahoo.com>; <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Paint gun for boat anchors

> Well, I did and there is no mention BEFORE your later whining reply.
> Id rather prattle than be senile.
>
> And as I own both an airbrush with CO2 cans as well as a mini gun and a 
> HVLP of both sizes I can damn well advocate what I wish without your 
> input.
> If a person already has or is contemplating a compressor for whatever 
> reason the HVLP is a cost effective and SUPERIOR tool. It is not the only 
> tool.
>
> If you dont appreciate my professional input, so be it, no loss to me. Im 
> sure some others do.
>
> Dont bother replying unless you feel getting in the last word is an 
> obsession with you.
>
> I have nothing further to say on the subject unless it is a painting 
> question directed to me. Or you can find me on several hot rod and 
> autobody forums.
>
> Carl
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "C E" <catman351 at yahoo.com>
> To: "jeremy-ca" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>; <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Friday, April 13, 2007 11:23 AM
> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Paint gun for boat anchors
>
>
>> Carl,
>> Please stop the prattle. Go back to all of my posts
>> regarding this and see that I mentioned these things.
>>
>> The bottom line is that despite your advocating HVLP
>> systems, a model paint gun system is perrrrrfectly
>> adequate so you don't have to $pend lot$ of $$$ on
>> $etting up an HVLP $y$tem.
>>
>> You may do this for a living. Some of us don't.
>>
>> Cal
>> --- jeremy-ca <km1h at jeremy.mv.com> wrote:
>>
>>> I suggest that you proof read your comments before
>>> posting. Nowhere was
>>> Badger or air can mentioned.
>>>
>>> I use a nice quality import dual action airbrush and
>>> CO2 cans when set up at
>>> car shows to do custom touches such as color
>>> blending flames, panel
>>> painting, etc. The brush kit is $30, probably less
>>> expensive than a new
>>> Badger.
>>>
>>> I still wouldnt use it on a large panel nor would I
>>> buy anything from the HF
>>> junk shop.
>>> HF set up in MA some years ago. They had so many
>>> consumer complaints that
>>> the state shut them down.
>>>
>>> Carl
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> From: "C E" <catman351 at yahoo.com>
>>> To: "jeremy-ca" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>;
>>> <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
>>> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 12:39 PM
>>> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Paint gun for boat anchors
>>>
>>>
>>> > Uh, no, Carh, sorry but you are wrong!
>>> >
>>> > I just told you I redid an entire 32V2 cabinet
>>> using a
>>> > Badger "model" spray system and canned air.
>>> Results
>>> > were fantastic!
>>> >
>>> > I believe its equivalent is the one they were
>>> talking
>>> > about for 10$ on Harbor Freight. You can use a
>>> > compressor. I borrowed mine from a friend later on
>>> but
>>> > the canned air sufficed. And it costs much less
>>> than
>>> > $50. I don't know why it didn't work for you but
>>> it
>>> > sure did for me. Got lots of complements on that
>>> > restored 32V2. I'll be glad to do it again the
>>> same
>>> > way I did the last time!
>>> >
>>> > Cal. N6KYR/8
>>> >
>>> > --- jeremy-ca <km1h at jeremy.mv.com> wrote:
>>> >
>>> >> What do you call a "model gun system" ?
>>> >>
>>> >> IMO an airbrush is way too small for many
>>> boatanchor
>>> >> jobs. Nozzle sizes are
>>> >> in the 0.3mm range and each painting pass covers
>>> >> only about an inch or so.
>>> >> Cheap airbrushes are single action and internal
>>> mix.
>>> >> The better ones are
>>> >> dual action with external mix. And mini
>>> compressors
>>> >> of any quality are not
>>> >> cheap.
>>> >>
>>> >> The next step up would be called a mini gun aka
>>> "Jam
>>> >> Gun". These are gravity
>>> >> feed non HVLP but still require at least a 1hp
>>> >> compressor. These are popular
>>> >> for larger models such as RC planes and nozzle
>>> sizes
>>> >> are in the 0.6 to 1.0
>>> >> mm range. You can get decent coverage but they
>>> lack
>>> >> the finesse of the
>>> >> HVLP's wide range of adjustments.
>>> >>
>>> >> I own several airbrushes and mini guns but dont
>>> use
>>> >> them for radio work.
>>> >>
>>> >> Examples of both types can be found from that
>>> Ebay
>>> >> vendor I referenced
>>> >> earlier.
>>> >>
>>> >> With many homeowners purchasing moderate size
>>> >> compressors these days for air
>>> >> tools, wood working, and many other uses, the
>>> >> addition of a nice HVLP touch
>>> >> up gun will set him back under $50 including
>>> >> regulator and in line filter.
>>> >>
>>> >> Carl
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> >> From: "C E" <catman351 at yahoo.com>
>>> >> To: "jeremy-ca" <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>;
>>> >> <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
>>> >> Sent: Thursday, April 12, 2007 10:41 AM
>>> >> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Paint gun for boat
>>> anchors
>>> >>
>>> >>
>>> >> > Carl:
>>> >> > HVLP is not a practical cost effective method
>>> for
>>> >> hams
>>> >> > who want to do restoration on an occassional
>>> 1-2
>>> >> piece
>>> >> > per year type affair. Besides,a properly set up
>>> >> model
>>> >> > gun system will be quite adequate (and can
>>> >> produced
>>> >> > museum quality results). BTDT.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Besides, I don't think you can find HVLP hobby
>>> >> type
>>> >> > systems for under $75.00. Big diff.
>>> >> >
>>> >> > Cal
>>> >> > --- jeremy-ca <km1h at jeremy.mv.com> wrote:
>>> >> >
>>> >> >> Altho conventional guns have been around for a
>>> >> >> century it took experience
>>> >> >> and skill to lay down a pro quality job.
>>> >> >> The learning curve for HVLP is very quick, you
>>> >> >> really have to TRY to leave
>>> >> >> runs and orange peel.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> There is a big difference between museum
>>> quality
>>> >> and
>>> >> >> a typical basement ham
>>> >> >> type job so use the tools that fit the job.
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> Carl
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
>>> >> >> From: "C E" <catman351 at yahoo.com>
>>> >> >> To: <heathkit at mailman.qth.net>
>>> >> >> Sent: Wednesday, April 11, 2007 11:40 AM
>>> >> >> Subject: Re: [Heathkit] Paint gun for boat
>>> >> anchors
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >>
>>> >> >> > HVLP-High volume Low Pressure. This is
>>> >> something
>>> >> >> that
>>> >> >> > the painting industry came out to prevent
>>> >> material
>>> >> >> > coming out of the gun from staying in the
>>> air
>>> >> and
>>> >> >> > going to the target paint piece. I
>>> personally
>>> >> >> don't
>>> >> >> > like them  because I feel that I can get a
>>> >> better
>>> >> >> > spray with conventional paint guns.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > Rattle cans are fine but remember that they
>>> >> have
>>> >> >> > limits. I'd opt to use a model paint gun and
>>> a
>>> >> >> hobby
>>> >> >> > compressor for most BA work. In fact, that
>>> is
>>> >> how
>>> >> >> I
>>> >> >> > painted a 32V2 cabinet.
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> > --- k0ewu9 at juno.com wrote:
>>> >> >> >
>>> >> >> >> Stupid me wants to know-  What is "HVLP"
>>> and
>>> >> how
>>> >> >> >> does it work? I have not
>>> >> >> >> graduated beyond the "Rattle cans"
>>> >> >> >> old jack
>>> >> >> >>
>>> >> >> >> On Tue, 10 Apr 2007 19:13:48 -0400
>>> "jeremy-ca"
>>> >> >> >> <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>
>>> >> >> >> writes:
>>> >> >> >> > As someone who has been painting custom
>>> >> cars,
>>> >> >> hot
>>>
>> === message truncated ===
>>
>>
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