[Heathkit] Scam alert - beware of DAN COTSIRILOS K9DTC

[Edward B Richards]

Duane is correct and offers good advice. I think we need to agree on a
set of terms to describe the condition of equipment. Very few people
would consider holes in the front panel "clean". "clean" does not mean
just free of dirt. It means free of damage, defacing, holes, dents,
bends, missing parts, etc. I think Dan mis-represented the condition and
should refund Ron's money and pay shipping both ways if he wants the
equipment back. 

Another much mis-used term is "mint". I don't see it as much recently,
but every now and then. "Mint" means the same as the day it was
manufactured. It comes from coin collector's vocabulary and means the
same condition as when it was minted. For radios, it means never taken
out of the box and used. Even fingerprints on a piece of equipment keeps
it from being "mint".

73, Ed Richards, K6UUZ
Simi Valley, California, 93065
Home of Air Force 1 Pavilion

On Sun, 6 Nov 2005 21:25:28 -0500 "Duane Fischer, W8DBF"
<dfischer at usol.com> writes:
> To All List Subscribers:         
>         
> This is an example of how communications can go awry when electronic 
> messages
> are used in place of voice communications. It is very easy for one 
> person to
> misunderstand the other when written words are used as the 
> communications
> medium, as what Bob understands "very clean" to be is not 
> necessarily what Tom
> defines it as being. I strongly suggest to each of you, to use the 
> telephone and
> talk with the seller. If you 'sense' that what he is saying is vague 
> in your
> opinion, you can immediately ask him to elaborate, clarify something 
> or be more
> specific, about a certain issue. While this can also be done by 
> e-mail, often
> times the momentary thought may be forgotten by the time you 
> conclude reading
> the post, or get interrupted by a family pet that needs to use the 
> bathroom, or
> a XYL calling you for chow etc. When on the telephone you can ask 
> what you want
> to know right then and there.        
>         
> Doing so avoids what has happened here! use the phone guys! it can 
> save
> friendships, prevent misunderstandings, eliminate negative posts 
> such as this
> that forever cast a shadow of doubt on a person's reputation (Even 
> if proven
> incorrect and retracted, the doubt never goes away!) and results in 
> two happy
> parties, seller and buyer.        
>         
> I encourage Ron and Dan to work this out on the landline and ask all 
> of you to
> reserve judgment as none of us have the facts before us to make our 
> own
> impartial evaluation and then draw conclusions.         
>         
> Duane Fische        
> r, W8DBF