[Heathkit] Scam alert - beware of DAN COTSIRILOS K9DTC

[Duane Fischer, W8DBF]

To All List Subscribers: 	
	
This is an example of how communications can go awry when electronic messages
are used in place of voice communications. It is very easy for one person to
misunderstand the other when written words are used as the communications
medium, as what Bob understands "very clean" to be is not necessarily what Tom
defines it as being. I strongly suggest to each of you, to use the telephone and
talk with the seller. If you 'sense' that what he is saying is vague in your
opinion, you can immediately ask him to elaborate, clarify something or be more
specific, about a certain issue. While this can also be done by e-mail, often
times the momentary thought may be forgotten by the time you conclude reading
the post, or get interrupted by a family pet that needs to use the bathroom, or
a XYL calling you for chow etc. When on the telephone you can ask what you want
to know right then and there.	
	
Doing so avoids what has happened here! use the phone guys! it can save
friendships, prevent misunderstandings, eliminate negative posts such as this
that forever cast a shadow of doubt on a person's reputation (Even if proven
incorrect and retracted, the doubt never goes away!) and results in two happy
parties, seller and buyer.	
	
I encourage Ron and Dan to work this out on the landline and ask all of you to
reserve judgment as none of us have the facts before us to make our own
impartial evaluation and then draw conclusions. 	
	
Duane Fische	
r, W8DBF 

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From: Ron <ronami at yahoo.com>
To: heathkit at mailman.qth.net
Subject: [Heathkit] Scam alert - beware of DAN COTSIRILOS K9DTC
Date: Sunday, November 06, 2005 7:33 PM


The following is posted as a public service.

DAN COTSIRILOS K9DTC (dcsfree at comcast.net) posted
a few Hethkit items for sale. I asked him about the
cosmetic condition. He replied that one item was
'real clean' and the other was 'not bad'. Based 
on this description, I agreed to pay $50 for both.

When the units arrived, the 'real clean' unit
had extra holes in the front panel... Someone had
replaced the Heathkit connectors with BNC connectors
and, in his wisdom, used flanged connectors that
require 4 additional holes for the screws. The 'not
bad' unit had serious damage to the front panel,
clear through the paint into the metal, in two
spots.

My hobby is refurbishing test instruments to 
like-new condition. Dan's description led me
to buy these units. They turned out to be 
useless for me.  

I wrote Dan to tell him how disappointed I was.
I waited a few days and, since he did not bother
to reply (why was I not surprised?), I gave him
a call. He said that a drilled front panel still
qualifies as 'real clean' and insisted that the 
unit with the damaged front panel was 'beautiful'.
Also, that I got what I paid for.

I told him I was going to post here a description
of the transaction. His reponse: 'I do a lot of
business. Losing one or two sales is no big deal
for me.'

If anyone yearns to buy stuff from this paragon
of honesty, I'll be happy to provide his address
and phone number. (The address and phone seem to
be registered to someone else, but Dan did 
receive the check I sent to his address and
did answer the phone).

-- Ron





> more items
> 
> SW-717 lights up complete no signal with full copy
> of manual
> 
> IT-12 signal tracer seems to work with probe
> 
> IG-102 Sig gen works great BNC connectors clean
> 
> IG-42 Sig gen works don't have the probe.
> 
> no reasonable offer refused on any or all of the
> above. 
> 
> 
> Dan K9DTC
> 
> 
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