[HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view
Phil Temples
phil at temples.com
Tue Sep 21 22:07:03 EDT 2021
Chris,
I don't appreciate your sharing our private correspondence with the entire
HCRA list.
-Phil, K9HI
On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 2:39 PM Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA <
hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
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> Phil,
> I think you're making a big political mistake by publicly supporting
> AB1OC. If he loses, you run the risk of alienating those who supported the
> losing candidates, but it's your choice and you know what the consequences
> will be.
> With 15 directors it becomes a game of coalition building and that's why
> it's so hard to change the direction of that massive ship otherwise known
> as ARRL.
> For those who thought my comment about women was anti-feminist, the last
> candidate I publicly supported for an ARRL Director was Ria, Jairam, N2RJ.
> I got to know her as a member of the eHam DX forum. She built a big DX
> station and has a background in computer data management. I think she was
> the head of the computer dept, at Fox News at one time. I'm pretty sure I
> made a nice donation to her campaign but that was several years ago.
> Chris NU1O
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Temples <phil at temples.com>
> To: nu1oscar at aol.com
> Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 2:12 pm
> Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view
>
> There are 15 directors. If you're one director, you must find at least
> seven other allies to support your motion. I've been coaching AB1OC on
> potential allies on the current board.
> Yes, it's a very conservative organization. I've learned this well from
> attending two board meetings since I was appointed last September.
> Re talking to actual directors--yes. Re talking up your idea to
> K1VR--that's pretty much a non-starter. You should hope that AB1OC does
> win. Of the three candidates, he's the one who is most willing to entertain
> new ideas.
> Phil
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:19 PM <nu1oscar at aol.com> wrote:
>
> I hope those who are all-in on AB1OC realize that even if he wins he's
> just one vote among many. The ARRL was setup so that the status quo is
> almost always the outcome. It's also a very conservative organization. I
> expect my proposal to build public stations in all 50 states to be rejected
> because too many directors won't want to spend endowment funds.
> Phil, all one can do is try. That would be the case whether you were a
> regional Director. Yes, talk to actual Directors. AB1OC hasn't been
> elected yet.
> Chris NU1O
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Temples <phil at temples.com>
> To: nu1oscar at aol.com
> Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 10:40 am
> Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view
>
> I will. Understand, though, I'm a "back seat" bench warmer on the board
> with no vote. But I can certainly talk it up among my fellow board
> members. I will also mention this to Fred Kemmerer.
> Phil
>
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 10:28 AM <nu1oscar at aol.com> wrote:
>
> I'm glad you like the idea, Phil. Why don't you try to get it implemented
> by talking about the idea with your colleagues at ARRL?
> Chris NU1O
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Phil Temples <phil at temples.com>
> To: nu1oscar at aol.com
> Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 10:12 am
> Subject: Fwd: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view
>
> Chris,
> You write:
> "...I propose using some of the endowment's funds to build stations for
> public use in all 50 states. Large states like NY, Texas, and CA., and
> other large states would need more than one station. A basic station could
> be built for under $10,000. I'm thinking of a transceiver, such as an Icom
> 7300, and a beam like the A3S by Cushcraft which a good TV rotor will
> turn. Members could also donate other needed equipment, and if structured
> properly, the donations could be tax-deductible. Publicly owned buildings
> (schools, libraries, etc.) should be used to avoid a large expenditure on
> real estate. I'm thinking of the station at the UN as a model. These
> stations could even be run remotely, but I think a common gathering spot
> where beginners could learn from more experienced hams would provide a big
> advantage. 75 of these stations could be built for less than $1
> million.That would cost the ARRL less than 5% of its endowment..I think a
> project like this would bring new hams from all walks of life into the
> hobby. It would give the poor in the inner cities a safe place to learn
> about electronics, and I've heard from many hams that amateur radio in
> their formative years led to high-paying jobs in the electronics industry
> for many who started ham radio as merely a hobby."
>
> That's an interesting idea, one that deserves further scrutiny.
> 73,
> Phil Temples, K9HI
> ARRL Vice DirectorNew England Division
>
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded message ---------
> From: Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA <hcra at mailman.qth.net>
> Date: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view
> To: hcra at mailman.qth.net <hcra at mailman.qth.net>
>
>
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> During the debate, it was revealed the ARRL's endowment is now $40
> million. Not long ago the endowment was $15 million but the bull market in
> the equities market over the past decade has no doubt been a factor in the
> big increase. I've seen this with many not-for-profit organizations; the
> endowments just grow larger and larger much like a company or billionaire's
> net worth. The endowment becomes almost sacrosanct.
>
> Why does the ARRL need an endowment of $40 million? With just a 5% return
> per annum, the endowment will be over $60 million in a decade. Is the
> purpose of the endowment to just see how much money the ARRL can accumulate
> or is it supposed to be used to help the hobby grow?
> If the ARRL is really going to mirror the demographics of society at
> large, there needs to be a way for those who can't afford a station of
> their own to get actual on-air time with a real ham station. I propose
> using some of the endowment's funds to build stations for public use in all
> 50 states. Large states like NY, Texas, and CA., and other large states
> would need more than one station. A basic station could be built for under
> $10,000. I'm thinking of a transceiver, such as an Icom 7300, and a beam
> like the A3S by Cushcraft which a good TV rotor will turn. Members could
> also donate other needed equipment, and if structured properly, the
> donations could be tax-deductible. Publicly owned buildings (schools,
> libraries, etc.) should be used to avoid a large expenditure on real
> estate. I'm thinking of the station at the UN as a model. These stations
> could even be run remotely, but I think a common gathering spot where
> beginners could learn from more experienced hams would provide a big
> advantage. 75 of these stations could be built for less than $1
> million.That would cost the ARRL less than 5% of its endowment..I think a
> project like this would bring new hams from all walks of life into the
> hobby. It would give the poor in the inner cities a safe place to learn
> about electronics, and I've heard from many hams that amateur radio in
> their formative years led to high-paying jobs in the electronics industry
> for many who started ham radio as merely a hobby.
> I expect many at the ARRL to resist such an idea, but does the ARRL really
> need a cash cushion of $40 million? How much of an endowment is enough
> before some of the money is actually used on projects to bring new hams
> into the hobby? Frankly, I'm getting tired of continually watching the
> endowment grow larger and larger when the hobby really needs a project as I
> have proposed.
> Chris NU1O
>
> hcra at mailman.qth.net
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bourque <dcbourq at juno.com>
> To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 9:08 am
> Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view
>
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> You're 100% correct, Chris. That is why I wrote "express your "One person;
> One vote" opinion at the ballot box" in my email response last evening. We
> have 3 and only three candidates to choose from. If the issues matter all
> that much, everyone should make theirvoting choice very carefully.
> Otherwise, talk is cheap. John, WA1JKB
>
>
> ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
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> To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" <HCRA at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view
> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 12:51:44 +0000 (UTC)
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> The most ironic thing about all of this is there will be some who wrote
> posts who won't bother to vote. All talk and no action types.
> Thanks for your service to our country!
> Chris NU1O
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: John Bourque <dcbourq at juno.com>
> To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 9:08 pm
> Subject: [HCRA] Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view
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> Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express
> this as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years
> active and 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely
> express their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't
> agree, express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box. Now
> get the hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB
>
> ---------- Forwarded Message ----------
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> To: "HCRA at mailman.qth.net" <HCRA at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view
> Date: Sun, 19 Sep 2021 00:14:21 +0000 (UTC)
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> Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or
> put down those who don't know CW. You won't find one because I didn't
> write a word about the things you referred to.
> My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not
> waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby.
> In essence, that's all I wrote. Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't
> handle actual facts.
> Chris NU1O
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ <k1nz at arrl.net>
> Cc: HCRA Email List <HCRA at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm
> Subject: Re: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view
>
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> Chris,
>
> This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of
> the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support
> I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I
> most likely wouldn't still be a ham.
>
> Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm
> not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I
> should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a
> blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test.
> These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the
> hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed.
>
> Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital
> modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth
> demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For
> example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was
> introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered
> digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating.
>
> We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger
> demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to
> change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left.
>
> Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't
> speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some
> feathers.
>
> This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and
> enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do
> doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham.
>
> 73,
> Nick K1NZ
>
>
> On the Droid.
>
> On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA <
> hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
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> > If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that
> > of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him.
> > This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think
> > most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This is 2021,
> > not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view
> our
> > hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've
> talked
> > to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen
> > about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air
> > or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a
> > year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support
> > from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and
> others..
> > .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that
> happening,
> > either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant
> > other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to
> please a
> > spouse.
> > As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with
> > radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or
> > fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a
> station,
> > That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past
> > decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining
> the
> > hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's
> > simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a
> > candidate who thinks that's possible.
> > I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England QSO
> > Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project
> and
> > he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a
> very
> > active ham for decades.
> > 73,
> > Chris NU1O
> > -----Original Message-----
> > From: John Ewell <ewelljohn188 at gmail.com>
> > To: HCRA at mailman.qth.net <HCRA at mailman.qth.net>
> > Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer <ab1oc at ab1oc.org>
> > Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm
> > Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view
> >
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> > To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election
> >
> > Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand
> > responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region.
> > Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are
> very
> > smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an
> > actualchoice in candidates for our region.
> >
> > 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten,
> K1VR
> > is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the
> > President of the Nashua Area Radio Society.
> >
> > I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my
> > Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and
> > provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We
> > went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite
> > communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was
> able
> > to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my
> background
> > is in powergeneration, not electronics).
> >
> > We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he
> > has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school
> contacts,and high
> > altitude balloon tracking.
> >
> > Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the
> > electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto
> > accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for
> > hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio
> clubs
> > inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement,
> > andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club,
> and
> > others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents
> > and ideas.
> >
> > Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the
> > traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and
> startlooking at
> > the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and
> > school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us.
> >
> > I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the
> field.
> > He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that
> > wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best
> speakers
> > I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and
> has a
> > history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to.
> >
> > I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I
> > didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten.
> So,beginning October
> > 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose
> > where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive
> > and diverse future.
> >
> > If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously.
> >
> > Sincerely,
> >
> > John Ewell N1JIE
> >
> > n1jie at arrl.net
> >
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