[HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view
Ma S
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Tue Sep 21 21:44:43 EDT 2021
Nah. I don’t think Chris is right. You’re good with your public support of AB1OC. :)
Thanks for your thoughts, Phil.
> On Sep 21, 2021, at 11:40 AM, Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA <hcra at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
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> Phil,
> I think you're making a big political mistake by publicly supporting AB1OC. If he loses, you run the risk of alienating those who supported the losing candidates, but it's your choice and you know what the consequences will be.
> With 15 directors it becomes a game of coalition building and that's why it's so hard to change the direction of that massive ship otherwise known as ARRL.
> For those who thought my comment about women was anti-feminist, the last candidate I publicly supported for an ARRL Director was Ria, Jairam, N2RJ. I got to know her as a member of the eHam DX forum. She built a big DX station and has a background in computer data management. I think she was the head of the computer dept, at Fox News at one time. I'm pretty sure I made a nice donation to her campaign but that was several years ago.
> Chris NU1O
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> From: Phil Temples <phil at temples.com>
> To: nu1oscar at aol.com
> Sent: Tue, Sep 21, 2021 2:12 pm
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> There are 15 directors. If you're one director, you must find at least seven other allies to support your motion. I've been coaching AB1OC on potential allies on the current board.
> Yes, it's a very conservative organization. I've learned this well from attending two board meetings since I was appointed last September.
> Re talking to actual directors--yes. Re talking up your idea to K1VR--that's pretty much a non-starter. You should hope that AB1OC does win. Of the three candidates, he's the one who is most willing to entertain new ideas.
> Phil
> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 12:19 PM <nu1oscar at aol.com> wrote:
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> I hope those who are all-in on AB1OC realize that even if he wins he's just one vote among many. The ARRL was setup so that the status quo is almost always the outcome. It's also a very conservative organization. I expect my proposal to build public stations in all 50 states to be rejected because too many directors won't want to spend endowment funds.
> Phil, all one can do is try. That would be the case whether you were a regional Director. Yes, talk to actual Directors. AB1OC hasn't been elected yet.
> Chris NU1O
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> I will. Understand, though, I'm a "back seat" bench warmer on the board with no vote. But I can certainly talk it up among my fellow board members. I will also mention this to Fred Kemmerer.
> Phil
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> On Tue, Sep 21, 2021 at 10:28 AM <nu1oscar at aol.com> wrote:
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> I'm glad you like the idea, Phil. Why don't you try to get it implemented by talking about the idea with your colleagues at ARRL?
> Chris NU1O
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> Chris,
> You write:
> "...I propose using some of the endowment's funds to build stations for public use in all 50 states. Large states like NY, Texas, and CA., and other large states would need more than one station. A basic station could be built for under $10,000. I'm thinking of a transceiver, such as an Icom 7300, and a beam like the A3S by Cushcraft which a good TV rotor will turn. Members could also donate other needed equipment, and if structured properly, the donations could be tax-deductible. Publicly owned buildings (schools, libraries, etc.) should be used to avoid a large expenditure on real estate. I'm thinking of the station at the UN as a model. These stations could even be run remotely, but I think a common gathering spot where beginners could learn from more experienced hams would provide a big advantage. 75 of these stations could be built for less than $1 million.That would cost the ARRL less than 5% of its endowment..I think a project like this would bring new hams from all walks of life into the hobby. It would give the poor in the inner cities a safe place to learn about electronics, and I've heard from many hams that amateur radio in their formative years led to high-paying jobs in the electronics industry for many who started ham radio as merely a hobby."
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> That's an interesting idea, one that deserves further scrutiny.
> 73,
> Phil Temples, K9HI
> ARRL Vice DirectorNew England Division
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> Date: Sun, Sep 19, 2021 at 11:17 AM
> Subject: Re: [HCRA] Fw: Re: Fw: Re: ARRL Director election - my view
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> During the debate, it was revealed the ARRL's endowment is now $40 million. Not long ago the endowment was $15 million but the bull market in the equities market over the past decade has no doubt been a factor in the big increase. I've seen this with many not-for-profit organizations; the endowments just grow larger and larger much like a company or billionaire's net worth. The endowment becomes almost sacrosanct.
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> Why does the ARRL need an endowment of $40 million? With just a 5% return per annum, the endowment will be over $60 million in a decade. Is the purpose of the endowment to just see how much money the ARRL can accumulate or is it supposed to be used to help the hobby grow?
> If the ARRL is really going to mirror the demographics of society at large, there needs to be a way for those who can't afford a station of their own to get actual on-air time with a real ham station. I propose using some of the endowment's funds to build stations for public use in all 50 states. Large states like NY, Texas, and CA., and other large states would need more than one station. A basic station could be built for under $10,000. I'm thinking of a transceiver, such as an Icom 7300, and a beam like the A3S by Cushcraft which a good TV rotor will turn. Members could also donate other needed equipment, and if structured properly, the donations could be tax-deductible. Publicly owned buildings (schools, libraries, etc.) should be used to avoid a large expenditure on real estate. I'm thinking of the station at the UN as a model. These stations could even be run remotely, but I think a common gathering spot where beginners could learn from more experienced hams would provide a big advantage. 75 of these stations could be built for less than $1 million.That would cost the ARRL less than 5% of its endowment..I think a project like this would bring new hams from all walks of life into the hobby. It would give the poor in the inner cities a safe place to learn about electronics, and I've heard from many hams that amateur radio in their formative years led to high-paying jobs in the electronics industry for many who started ham radio as merely a hobby.
> I expect many at the ARRL to resist such an idea, but does the ARRL really need a cash cushion of $40 million? How much of an endowment is enough before some of the money is actually used on projects to bring new hams into the hobby? Frankly, I'm getting tired of continually watching the endowment grow larger and larger when the hobby really needs a project as I have proposed.
> Chris NU1O
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> From: John Bourque <dcbourq at juno.com>
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> You're 100% correct, Chris. That is why I wrote "express your "One person; One vote" opinion at the ballot box" in my email response last evening. We have 3 and only three candidates to choose from. If the issues matter all that much, everyone should make theirvoting choice very carefully. Otherwise, talk is cheap. John, WA1JKB
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> The most ironic thing about all of this is there will be some who wrote posts who won't bother to vote. All talk and no action types.
> Thanks for your service to our country!
> Chris NU1O
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> From: John Bourque <dcbourq at juno.com>
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> Grow-up everyone. This is America - The land of the free. And I express this as a currently retired 24 year retiree from the US Army. 5 Years active and 19 years in the Army Reserves. Every one has the right to freely express their OWN opinion. Whether you agree with it or not. If you don't agree, express your "One person; One vote" opinionat the ballot box. Now get the hell off each other's back and act civil. WA1JKB
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> Go find one sentence from my message where I denigrated digital modes or put down those who don't know CW. You won't find one because I didn't write a word about the things you referred to.
> My point is we should go after those actually joining the hobby and not waste time or money on demographic groups that aren't joining the hobby. In essence, that's all I wrote. Maybe you're too sensitive, or you can't handle actual facts.
> Chris NU1O
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> From: Nick Maslon - K1NZ <k1nz at arrl.net>
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> Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 7:18 pm
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> Chris,
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> This email reads as a slap in the face. At 30 (licensed at 20), I'm one of
> the younger, if not the youngest HCRA member. If it weren't for the support
> I received from Kx1x, KK1W, N1FJ, K1TTT, N1TA, and other HCRA members, I
> most likely wouldn't still be a ham.
>
> Your sentiments echo many of those that I have heard over the years. I'm
> not a real ham because I'm not proficient at CW. FT8 isn't a real mode. I
> should turn in my license because I didn't walk uphill both ways during a
> blizzard to the FCC office 50 miles away to take my 30 WPM novice test.
> These gatekeeping sentiments are EXACTLY why youth are not joining the
> hobby and/or fizzle out soon after being licensed.
>
> Instead, we should be promoting other avenues such as maker spaces, digital
> modes, tech, etc. where there are opportunities to capture the youth
> demographic and potentially expose them to other facets of the hobby. For
> example, I was always interested in dxing but after I got licensed was
> introduced to SOTA and contesting. After a few years, I discovered
> digimodes and now that's honestly 70% of my at-home operating.
>
> We're honestly running out of time. If we don't embrace the younger
> demographic, we won't have a hobby left. If that requires the hobby to
> change, then we have to adapt, otherwise there won't be a hobby left.
>
> Also, I'm not going to address the women in ham radio point because I can't
> speak to their experiences. You do seem however to have ruffled some
> feathers.
>
> This hobby is big enough for everyone. Why can't we just play nice and
> enjoy it together? Just because I don't enjoy it the same way you do
> doesn't mean I'm not entitled to have fun being a ham.
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> 73,
> Nick K1NZ
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> On the Droid.
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>> On Sat, Sep 18, 2021, 14:59 Chris Scibelli NU1O via HCRA <
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>> If AB1OC is going to try and turn the demographics of our hobby into that
>> of the overall population that is reason enough NOT to vote for him.
>> This hobby has tried for decades to get teens into the hobby and I think
>> most of us have finally realized it's not going to happen. This is 2021,
>> not 1951. Teens have a plethora of hobbies to chose from and they view our
>> hobby as antiquated and boring. At least that's what the teens I've talked
>> to about ham radio have told me. Some of us from the HCRA elmered a teen
>> about 5 years ago. I must have spent 50 to 100 hours with him on the air
>> or on the phone. He was gung-ho at the start but it only lasted about a
>> year. He's now an inactive ham. He didn't quit due to a lack of support
>> from local hams because he received plenty of help from myself and others..
>> .As for getting loads of women into the hobby, I don't see that happening,
>> either. Most female hams are usually the spouse of a ham or a significant
>> other introduced them to the hobby. I think many join the hobby to please a
>> spouse.
>> As it stands now, most new hams are still mainly male, they toyed with
>> radio at some point in their lives, and they are now near retirement or
>> fully retired. They now have the time and money to buy and use a station,
>> That has been the background of almost every new ham I've met in the past
>> decade. We may as well go after the demographic group actually joining the
>> hobby instead of trying some social experiment destined to fail. It's
>> simply a losing battle fighting demographics and I won't vote for a
>> candidate who thinks that's possible.
>> I'm voting for Tom, K1KI. He's done a great job with the New England QSO
>> Party for the past 20 years. That tells me he can stick with a project and
>> he has the needed time to devote to the job. We also know he's been a very
>> active ham for decades.
>> 73,
>> Chris NU1O
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>> From: John Ewell <ewelljohn188 at gmail.com>
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>> Cc: AB1OC Fred Kemmerer <ab1oc at ab1oc.org>
>> Sent: Sat, Sep 18, 2021 1:15 pm
>> Subject: [HCRA] ARRL Director election - my view
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>> To my fellow HCRA members regarding the upcoming ARRLDirector election
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>> Beginning in October, ARRL members will have the opportunityand
>> responsibility to elect a new Director from the New England Region.
>> Ourregion has 3 candidates for the Director position. All of them are very
>> smart,very accomplished and active hams. We are very fortunate to have an
>> actualchoice in candidates for our region.
>>
>> 2 of the candidates have held the Director position (FredHopengarten, K1VR
>> is current, Tom Frenaye, K1KI is previous). Fred Kemmerer,AB1OC is the
>> President of the Nashua Area Radio Society.
>>
>> I met Fred Kemmerer AB1OC, as I took a 3-day Ham crashcourse to get my
>> Extra license a couple of years ago. He held the class at hishouse, and
>> provided multiple examples of equipment and its use from his hamshack. We
>> went through test equipment, various types of antennas, satellite
>> communications,all in a hands-on fashion. His team of instructors was able
>> to explainelectronic to this poor steam and water based mind (my background
>> is in powergeneration, not electronics).
>>
>> We also had demonstrations of some of the projects andsuccesses that he
>> has had with NARS, such as ham boot camp, ISS – school contacts,and high
>> altitude balloon tracking.
>>
>> Fred has a background in corporate management at the toplevels in the
>> electronics industry. He has plenty of experience building a teamto
>> accomplish a goal. He has turned NARS into a fantastic resource for
>> hamradio, which is freely shared online. He knows the value of radio clubs
>> inmaintaining activity, education, public interaction and involvement,
>> andgrowing radio. He has used social media to share and grow his club, and
>> others.He has reached out to other clubs and hams to share their talents
>> and ideas.
>>
>> Fred has recognized that in order to grow, we have to lookbeyond the
>> traditional ham – beyond older middle class white men, and startlooking at
>> the overall population and try to mirror that. His success withyoung and
>> school age entry into radio speaks well for him and us.
>>
>> I feel strongly that Fred Kemmerer is the strongestcandidate in the field.
>> He knows how to build a team, how to motivate people,how to inspire that
>> wonder that started many of us in radio. He is also one ofthe best speakers
>> I have seen in radio. He has a plan, he has set goals forhimself, and has a
>> history of succeeding at what he puts his mind to.
>>
>> I wanted to wait until just before the voting start to sendthis out. I
>> didn’t want it to come out too early and be forgotten. So,beginning October
>> 1, until November 19, we have an opportunity and an obligationto choose
>> where our organization goes. Continue the status quo, or move to anactive
>> and diverse future.
>>
>> If you are an ARRL member, please treat this election seriously.
>>
>> Sincerely,
>>
>> John Ewell N1JIE
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>> n1jie at arrl.net
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