[Ham-Computers] windows copies

Mon Apr 28 15:58:13 EDT 2008

Jay,

Thank you very much for that excellent overview.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Jay Eimer" <ad5pe at sbcglobal.net>
To: "Computers (or other) used for amateur radio, communications, or 
experimenting" <ham-computers at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 2:36 PM
Subject: Re: [Ham-Computers] windows copies

> Duane,
>
>  Your "refurb" system came with a Compaq OEM license, which you elected 
> not to use.  You instead are using your XP Home retail copy.  You are 
> legal on either OS, but can only transfer the retail OS to a new box via 
> the reactivation key route.  The OEM XP Pro is not transferrable.  You DID 
> get it, though - it was on the box.  The media is factory installed by 
> Compaq, along with a CD image on the hard-disk, which you can (and should) 
> burn to a CD-R in case you need to recover from a disk failure.  However, 
> if you aren't using the XP Pro, there's no reason to now, since you can't 
> transfer it.
>
>  BTW, it's not like you're out a lot on that OEM version.  Yes, the system 
> builders do charge you for the OS they ship (passing on the costs like any 
> business) but they pay far less than you do at retail.  That's one of the 
> reasons that OEM OSs aren't transferrable.  Included in the retail markup 
> is the "right to transfer"
>
>  73,
>  Jay
>  AD5PE
>
> "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com> wrote:
>  What about users such as I who purchased a copy of MS XP Home Edition for
> $99, or whatever I paid in December of 2005, and can only use it once?
> Supposedly I can get a code to use it one more time, should I need to
> reinstall the OS on their business computer system.
>
> As I mentioned in a previous post, since the new/refurbished machine I
> purchased, (refurbished in this case, meaning it was one built for a 
> company
> who did not take all of the machines they originally ordered, so since
> Compaque could not sell it as "new" as such, it was sold as refurbished,
> even though it truly was new with a full warranty.), came with XP PRO and 
> my
> screen reading software will not work with XP Pro, just XP Home Edition, I
> never got the copy of XP Pro that I also paid for.
>
> Somehow this entire thing just seems not equitable.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "kd4e"
> To: "Computers (or other) used for amateur radio, communications, or
> experimenting"
> Sent: Monday, April 28, 2008 1:36 PM
> Subject: Re: [Ham-Computers] windows copies
>
>
>>I have been told that MS claims some absurd right to
>> limit your use of XP or Vista based on changes to the
>> hardware in your computer or heaven-forbid that you
>> change hardware.
>>
>> Essentially they claim that they only "lease" you a copy
>> of their chronically troubled operating system and they
>> get to tell you where, when, and how you may use it --
>> and if you do anything with which they disagree they
>> terminate your right to use it and keep your money!
>>
>> The result is that MS claims that they sell you a
>> single-use single-machine only-minor-hardware-changes-
>> allowed license. If you make "major" hardware changes
>> the license is terminated. If you switch machines
>> entirely the license is terminated. It is unclear if
>> you may resell your MS license, with or without the
>> original hardware. It is also unclear if you may
>> install it on one machine, uninstall it, and install
>> the same OS on a different machine.
>>
>> Your Dell was originally shipped with a OEM version
>> of XP "assigned" to that machine. For whatever reason
>> someone wiped that install and later replaced it with
>> and illegal copy of XP.
>>
>> MS may assert that only the XP they just sold you may
>> be installed on that Dell and that a Dell or other XP
>> may not replace it and that you may not transfer your
>> XP to another PC. Or so I have been told.
>>
>> This is one of the many good reasons that I use Linux.
>>
>> :-)
>>
>>> My question is: Can I remove the legal copy, save it ( have the correct
>>> installation key)and use a Dell XP installation disk on this machine?
>>>>From what you say, the Dell disks are not machine specific; does the 
>>>>Dell
>>> installation disk have the installation key "built in"?
>>>
>>> If I can do this, I could free up the 'legal copy' for use on another
>>> machine. . .
>>>
>>> Sorry to be a bother, but I did not want to go through all this if the
>>> Dell disk would not work.
>>>
>>> Thanks es
>>> 73 Gene, WØQFC
>>
>>
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