[Ham-Computers] RE: "Run-A-Way" swap file
Philip Atchley
[email protected]
Tue, 4 Nov 2003 04:08:11 -0000
Thank you for the info.
Yes, I'd be interested in how you set up and tweak the 64MB swapfile. As I
mentioned I even tried setting a fixed 800 MB swapfile (overkill) but it
just filled that up faster than the 1500 MB.
73 from the "Beaconeers Lair".
Phil, KO6BB
In daily combat with QRM & QRN.
We may lose a battle but we'll win the war!
[email protected]
Merced, Central California
37.18N 120.29W CM97sh
----- Original Message -----
> Hi Phil,
>
> Sounds more like some program you're running has a memory "leak". This
> occurs when a program allocates memory, but doesn't properly "return" it
to
> the memory pool. This occurs more often than not as many development
tools
> themselves were/are buggy (with leaks) and any program written with that
> particular tool will exhibit the "leak". Windows 95 memory manager is
quite
> "leaky". Win98 is a bit better. Even NT based systems aren't immune
> (NT/2K/XP).
>
> If you're running Win98 (which it sounds like you are), then you have more
> than enough RAM for most purposes. 16MB absolute minimum, 32MB suggested,
> 64MB recommended, 128MB "sweet spot". Don't go beyond 320MB in Win98 as
> there are some bugs that manifest themselves once physical RAM goes beyond
> 320MB. Once you have 128MB or more of RAM in Win98, then your best bet is
> to set a permanent page file of 64MB. There are also some other "tweaks"
to
> optimize how Win98 utilizes memory. With 256MB RAM, you should never see
> your pagefile get past 64MB unless you a) have a program that some SERIOUS
> memory requirements, or b) have a "leaky" or buggy program. On my Win98
> systems, I have 256MB RAM with a 64MB permanent swapfile and the swapfile
> utilization rarely ever gets beyond 10MB even with memory hungry apps.
>
> Always remember that Win9x is still running "on top" of an older core
(DOS).
> Thus, there are some things that are still limited to the "base" 1MB limit
> of Intel CPU's "real mode". Many internal pointers used by Win9x must
stay
> under the 1MB boundary. As such, you can install an infinte amount of
> memory in the system and still get "out of memory" errors - been there,
done
> that. The best thing to do is to "tweak" Win9x's memory management as
much
> as possible to get the most benefit out of installed memory.
>
> If you'd like more details on how to setup the 64MB swapfile or the other
> tweaks, let me know.
>
> 73,
>
> - Aaron Hsu, NN6O (ex-KD6DAE)
> {nn6o}@arrl.net
> {athsu}@unistudios.com
> No-QRO Int'l #1,000,006
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>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Philip Atchley [mailto:[email protected]]
> Sent: Monday, November 03, 2003 4:08 PM
> To: [email protected]
> Subject: [Ham-Computers] "Run-A-Way" swap file
>
>
> Hi.
> For some months now my computer has on occasion been experiencing what I
can
> only describe as "run-a-way swap file" (386.swp). This doesn't happen ALL
> the time but when it does it's very frustrating as I'll get an "Out of
> memory" message and whatever program I'm running bombs out. HOWEVER! I
> don't have to be running a program for this to occur as it has also
occurred
> on some occasions when the computer was sitting idle with no "programs"
> running (just the normal background stuff). At first I thought it was my
> virus scanner (Avast!) creating this swap file as it sometimes but not
> always occurred when it was doing the automatic hard drive scans. So, I
> removed the Avast Anti-virus program and went back to AVG which I'd used
> previously. It made no difference. Reinstalled Avast!
>
> Sometimes the computer runs for days with no problem then all of a sudden
it
> "acts up" The drive has been scanned and rescanned with virus scanners
> which have turned up no known viruses.
>
> Here are the specifics of the computer and operating system.
>
> Computer:
> 600 MHz Intel Pentium III, 256 MB RAM, 4.2GB SCSI drive with 1.5GB "free".
> GeForce Video card with 64MB Video Ram.
>
> Operating system and installed software:
> 1. Win98SE with all updates, MS .NET Framework 1.1, I.E. 6, O.E. 6.
> 2. MS Office 2002.
> 3. Avast! Antivirus program.
> 4. Rain 2.0 (CPU cooler software)
> 5. Many various Radio Logging programs and databases. A new logging
program
> was installed just a few days ago but this problem precedes that
> installation.
>
> NOTE: I normally have 1.5GB of hard drive empty, even when running
several
> programs. However, when the swap file "runs away" this is quickly totally
> filled up. I DID try manually setting the swap file to 800MB but all this
> accomplished was to cause the computer to give the "Out of memory" message
> more often.
>
> HELP!
>
>
> 73 from the "Beaconeers Lair".
> Phil, KO6BB
>
> In daily combat with QRM & QRN.
> We may lose a battle but we'll win the war!
> [email protected]
> Merced, Central California
> 37.18N 120.29W CM97sh
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