[Hallicrafters] NDB

[Roger (K8RI)]

rbethman wrote:
> Roger, Et al,
>
> My biggest complaint with NDBs, has never the flying associated with 
> them in and of itself, but the DUMB location in ALL The Pipers and 
> Cessnas I have flown, the Radio for this was NEVER in the center 
> stack!  That radio, was ALWAYS all the way across the panel where a 
> front seat passenger would sit.   
In the Deb the ADF is located at the bottom of the radio stack. The CDI 
for the ADF is directly under the CDI for VOR#2 which makes it easy to 
use. In the old Cherokee 180 (N6360J) it was as you describe and the CDI 
was "UNDER" the panel.

As I mentioned earlier, the NDB was the only approach for GDW until they 
added a GPS overaly. Now both are gone. AMN had both and SDF and NDB 
along with the VOR. Both the SDF and NDB have been decommissioned. The 
OM on ILS 05 at KMBS was an NDB which also served as an NDB approach and 
it's gone. I believe West Branch also lost their NDB
> ADF is
>
> It makes it a bit difficult to maintain an appropriate instrument 
> scan, look out the windscreen, AND somehow add in the RDF set for the 
> NDB.
>
The Deb's is digital where as the Cherokee was analog. The CDI on the 
Cherokee tended to wander a good 60 degrees either side of home which 
required a good set of interpolation skills as well and intuition<:-)) 
Back in those days the instructor used to shake his head after an NDB 
into GDW.  He remarked "The CDI was all over the place, but you were 
right down the center line and I can't imagine how you managed that". So 
going to the Deb's made NDB's a "piece of cake". OTOH with the massive 
cross bar of the Beech dual yoke, nothing at the bottom of the panel is 
visible without leaning over.  Unless I'm under (or over) the clouds or 
at the decision point I don't bother looking outside when on instruments.

I'm pretty sure I asked this some months back, but what's the identifier 
of the airport getting the NDB?

73

Roger (K8RI)
> Roger (K8RI) wrote:
>> rbethman wrote:
>>
>>> They are a pain.  
>> NDB's.  They "build character" and with a bit of practice can be 
>> fun.  Even do a descending hold on one with timed, descending turns 
>> to a specific heading?
>>> Bob - N0DGN
>>>
>>> w6ph at aol.com wrote:
>>>  
>>>> Just wondering but if there is no instrument approach associated
>>>> with that NDB, why (and how) would it be checked by Airways?
>>>>  
>>>> And does anyone ever do NDB approaches anymore?
>
> The specific airfield identified by Skip, lists the NDB approach as 
> the #1 for IFR.  So this one WILL have to be checked by Airways, and 
> we haqve already beat the rest of the FAA to death that will chime in.
>> I did until they closed all the ones around here.
>
> Bob - N0DGN
>