[Hallicrafters] SX-88 Overhype Continues

Sun Feb 8 22:52:45 EST 2009

Greggy boy, there is only one over the top here and it isnt yours truly.

You joined the AMfone thread for the same reason you are carrying on 
here.....to stir up controversy simply because you are a rich spoiled 
boy who owns a few radios and doesnt want to see their value diminished. 
It all boils down to "follow the money". The thread died there because 
peer acknowledged experts had their say and arent in the habit of 
wasting time with troublemakers.

Why dont you put up or shut up and let W1VD test that SX-88?  You 
ignored my prior suggestion. Or are you simply afraid??

About Litz wire, I dont know every National radio that used it, do you?? 
Since Nationals arent known for frying IF windings when a paper cap 
fails I'd have to guess that many do. I havent had the need to open up 
many IF cans to check.

Talk about name calling! At least I have an established almost 7 year 
history with National and Im damn proud of it. It included some of their 
peak years. I challenge you to find anything Ive said that was 
embelished or outlandish about my time there. Youre great at throwing 
zings around on forums at everyone who disagrees with you but rather 
weak at substance.

Go somewhere else and maybe find someone new to annoy. And let this 
forum return to normal again.

Carl
KM1H
National Company/National Radio Company 1963-69
WRR-2A Production Tech
Service Tech
Service Manager
Member of NCL-2000 and NCX-1000 Design Teams

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <WA1KBQ at aol.com>
To: <km1h at jeremy.mv.com>; <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 10:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] SX-88 Overhype Continues

> You avoided answering the question I  asked on which National 
> receivers were
> Litz wound. I will assume you probably  don't know. You seem to enjoy 
> riding
> in on National's reputation attempting  to impress us all here with 
> your
> embellished and outlandish accounts of your  days spent in customer 
> service for a by
> then failing company that occurred too  long ago for anyone to care 
> anymore.
> I suspect more than a few here would tell  you the opinions and advice 
> you
> usually post is a little over the top.
>
> I  don't participate at amfone; the SX-88 incident came about from an
> Internet  search turning up someone like yourself running SX-88s in 
> the ground over
> there  so I felt compelled to enter the fray and give them something 
> to write
> about.  The thread died because no one had anything to refute the 
> arguments
> and the evidence I posted. Believe me, if they had anything over there 
> they
> would have posted it much like you finding you are unable to resist 
> firing one
> more shot. Same thing happened here in this thread and you're now 
> down to name
> calling. I think you must realize you came up a little short  here.
>
> -Greg Gore
>
> In a message dated 2/8/2009 8:42:14 P.M. US  Eastern Standard Time,
> km1h at jeremy.mv.com writes:
>
> ----- Original Message  ----- 
> From: <WA1KBQ at aol.com>
> To:  <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Sunday, February 08, 2009 4:51  PM
> Subject: [Hallicrafters] SX-88 Value Controversy Continues
>
>> The  SX-88 was actually a top  of the line benchmark receiver for
>>  Hallicrafters in it's day much as the Pro-310  was for Hammarlund 
>> and
>> though a little late
>> to dinner, so too the NC-400 for   National. Not one of these three 
>> was
>> a
>> sales success for the  companies, however.  Does this mean they all 
>> had
>> problems  as
>> another poster suspected was the case  for SX-88 or were  deficient 
>> in
>> some
>> way? I tend to think these expensive  "halo"  receivers failed in the
>> marketplace
>> because hams  earned a reputation over the  years of being 
>> tightfisted.
>>  Since
>> 1934 Hallicrafters steadily built a reputation  for offering  the 
>> most
>> features
>> at the lowest price and then suddenly in  1954  there appears this
>> $5000
>> (equiv. 2008 dollars)  Hallicrafters version! In  subsequent years 
>> the
>> amateur
>>  marketplace backed this up by pointing out most  hams will buy a
>>  Heathkit or an
>> import before shelling out the equivalent of  $5000  for a
>> Hallicrafters receiver.
>
>
> That above paragraph is so  full of self styled misinformation and BS 
> I
> can see why you were eventually  ignored over on AMfone; a thread 
> which I
> didnt take part in.
>
> Using  the Pro-310 as a benchmark is a laugh. It died because it was a
> dog; it was  too early for SS to surprass tubes unless you were the
> government. The  NC-400 was obsolete before it went into production 
> plus
> every one built lost  money.
>
> You try and portray yourself as being a high end collector but the 
> more
> you post the less you really seem to know about the history of the
> companies you mention.
>
> National had no problem selling the HRO to  hams during the Depression 
> or
> after the war; any model including the  HRO-500. The NC-183, 183D, 
> NC-300
> or 303 werent cheap yet sold well and the  latter pair were limited to
> just ham bands.
>
> Collins came out with the  75A in 1946 and just kept on making them
> better and more expensive as hams  bought up every one made.
>
> Hammarlund had no problem selling the HQ-170 or  180.
>
> Hams are no more tightfisted than the general public. Some bought
> Fords/Chevy/Plymouth prewar and others had anything they wanted to
> choose from all the way to the Duesenberg SJ and Caddy V-16's. After 
> the
> war it was the same Big 3 low end and the Henry J/Allstate. At the 
> high
> end there was the Lincoln V-12 Continental, Packards, Caddys, 
> Imperials
> and everything in between. Consider the Corvette as a hamband only 
> car.
>
> Bottom feeder hams had the S-38's, SW-54, and others,  and  could go 
> up
> from there as their happy little hearts desired.
>
> I think  its time to end this thread as it is going nowhere that will
> change anyones  opinion.
>
> When the economy gets to the point that a SX-88 sells for what I
> consider a reasonable price I will add one to the collection of over 
> 300
> radios here. For Hallis they go back to the SX-9 early and late
> production.
>
> Carl
> KM1H
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