I just zoomed over to both sites and they work for me. The original site is busy therefore I get the log on window, but the other downloads just fine. Jim/W5JO > Anyone have a " GOOD" link to the bama page where you actually can > download a manual ? all I get is dead ends,. > > > Thanks, Joey > > R. " Joey " Fiero II > A.R.S. W5TFW > Em-40 DXCC VUCC >