[Hallicrafters] RE: Hallicrafters Digest - Unsubscribing
Scott Headrick
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Wed Mar 8 17:54:51 EST 2006
This is just ridiculous in public. I'm unsubscribing to this garbage because
I'm ashamed to be a member and to actually have to read this. KC7KOJ.
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Today's Topics:
1. Re: Sour Grapes (Todd, KA1KAQ)
2. HOBBY? (John King)
3. Re: SX71 MOD, a reprise (GBrown)
4. Re: Copyright REQUIREMENTS (Bob)
5. Sheesh (TC Dailey)
6. Re: SX71 MOD, a reprise (Dan Cotsirilos K9DTC)
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Message: 1
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 15:21:29 -0500
From: "Todd, KA1KAQ" <ka1kaq at gmail.com>
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Sour Grapes
To: "William L Howard" <wlhoward at verizon.net>
Cc: Hallicrafters list <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
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On 3/8/06, William L Howard <wlhoward at verizon.net> wrote:
> I recall early on in my radio-addiction hearing a commercial airliner
> over the Atlantic with an engine fire. Think it was a 707, IIRC. Good
> ol' HF AM. Of course, it was heard on an old Philco floor
> model/console, but it did lead to my first SW receiver: the S-40B,
> followed by a huge National RAO-7.
> de Todd/'Boomer' KA1KAQ
>
> So what happened to the airplane?
You're asking a lot here, Bill. That was.....1976-77? I know they were
talking to the control tower/ATC in NY (I think) to get emergency
landing clearance, but where I don't recall. I suspect I was
instructed to turn off the radio for dinner, since I had installed it
in the dining room. Hey, it took more space than I had available in my
room!
I do remember that the pilot had a thick Italian or Spanish accent,
though. And I was sooooo hooked on radio at that point.
de Todd/'Boomer' KA1KAQ
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Message: 2
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 12:34:08 -0800 (PST)
From: John King <k5pgw at yahoo.com>
Subject: [Hallicrafters] HOBBY?
To: hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
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Is this about our BELOVED HOBBY or about self
centered, selfish business people who make this their
living scarfing off the true Hams for their financial
benefit. Or, is this about egomaniacs who selfishly
guard their intellectual(questionable)property?
If this is a HOBBY reflector, then maybe these people
who are worried about their "property" should keep
"their property" off of this reflector. We shouldn't
be worried about "reading other people's property"!!!
We might get a bill in the mail for utilizing
"copyrighted" material for our benefit or pleasure.
I think maybe I should send out an investigator to
find all those people who built a dipole like mine
using old coke bottles for end insulators and center
insulator. I discovered that the coke bottle being
very thick glass made a great insulator, and having
the unique "coke bottle shape" with ridges just below
the top of the bottle made it ideal to tie wire around
at the top and near the bottom...thus an insulator!!!
YOU DO NOT HAVE PERMISSION TO USE MY IDEA OR BUILD
SUCH AN ANTENNA...if you do I will take action against
you and i must be given "praise" for having the
thought in addition to whatever else I might be
entitled to for my "creation".
I am going to go outside and take my antennas down
because someone may copy my unique way of wrapping the
wire on the insulators and copy the angle of the
dangle. They might also duplicate all the florescent
light bulbs attached to the antenna that light up the
night when I talk. THIS IS ALL VERY VALUABLE
INTELLECTUAL PROPERTY AND WORK PRODUCT AND I DON'T
WANT ANYONE ELSE HAVING IT. I will not share it with
anyone, and I do have a picture of everything in an
unopened envelope that I made and mailed to myself
with the postmark thereon to fix the date that I
"invented" these valuable antennas. I was taught in
Law School that ideas alone cannot be patented, so I
guess taking the antennas down and out of sight would
be the safest thing to do.
Reminds me of a KID I played with as a KID, if he
didn't get his way, he would just take his marbles and
go home!!
This reflector takes me back to my childhood. "That is
mine, I saw it first", NO you didn't I saw it first".
I'm gonna tell Momma...except today it is "I called my
Lawyer" .......How sad for a HOBBY!!! 73, John, K5PGW
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Message: 3
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 15:50:57 -0500
From: "GBrown" <gkbrown at gwi.net>
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] SX71 MOD, a reprise
To: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com>, "Philip Atchley"
<Beaconeer at sbcglobal.net>, "Magoo" <magoo at isp.ca>,
<hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
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Who said I took this from someone, YOU did. I was only passing on what I had
done to a restoration, and what I had come by on my own, no ones help.
What YOU are doing is just plain harassment. You have a problem with me,
get it out in the open. Don't HIDE behind some trumped up charge or
allegation.
Duane, be a man, take responsibility for your actions.
Gary...
----- Original Message -----
From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com>
To: "Philip Atchley" <Beaconeer at sbcglobal.net>; "Magoo" <magoo at isp.ca>;
<hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:57 PM
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] SX71 MOD, a reprise
> Phil (and all)
>
> When someone takes the copyrighted work of another without permission, or
> does so with permission, you always credit the source and the author. To
do
> otherwise is theft and/or plagerism, depending on whether or not the
person
> taking said material 'claims' to be the author. What Gary Brown did was
> wrong and unethical.
>
> Whether it is donated or whether it is not, what is on the HCI web site
is
> copyrighted under that entity. If someone wants to reprintn something,
they
> need to get permission from the Web Master first.
>
> Gary is just complaining because once again he got caught being dishonest
> and is trying to pass the buck elsewhere.
>
> The HCI policy is clearly stated. If you wish to reprint an item or
photo,
> ask the Web Master first. Then credit the source and the author or
> contributor. What is there is for the benefit of all, but we also have an
> obligation to those who donate their work to protect it from theft,
misuse
> etc. Not all of what is on the HCI web site is donated! Hence the "Get
> Permission First" policy.
>
> Duane Fischer, W8DBF
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Philip Atchley" <Beaconeer at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Magoo" <magoo at isp.ca>; <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:14 AM
> Subject: [Hallicrafters] SX71 MOD, a reprise
>
>
> > Hi All,
> >
> > Sheesh, if I'd have realized what a firestorm all this was going to
create
> > I would have kept my mouth shut, or rather, my fingers off the
keyboard!
> >
> > Anything that I submit or come up with, whether on my web site or via
> > Email, is for the full benefit of the boatanchor community. The SX71
> > "mod" (which I first posted in the form of an Email and which was
> > subsequently copied to the HCI site with my approval) that I came up
with
> > was 'slightly' more than just the cathode resistor, I also changed the
> > screen bias etc. of the second stage. Still, all pretty simple stuff.
> > All that the HCI folks did was copy my email to the Web-site and add
some
> > advertising pictures to make it interesting.
> >
> > As far as I'm concerned, the written part that I produced can be
printed
> > and may be freely used anywhere so long as there isn't any monetary
> > compensation (though if it's copied to any web-site etc. I'd appreciate
> > credit). So far as I know, the PICTURES ARE HCI PROPERTY and any
needed
> > permission should be definitely be obtained to use them.
> >
> > Since I originally wrote the article, and only parts of it made it's
away
> > "around the circuit", I'm re-posting a copy here from my own archives.
> > Enjoy!
> >
> > <Pasted in>
> > I decided to take a '2nd' look at the SX-71. While it played quite
well
I
> > never felt like it was doing all that a receiver with 3 IF stages
should
> > do. Front end seemed sensitive enough, but overall gain and AGC action,
> > while a little better than 'most' receivers with 2 IF's like the
> > Hammarlund HQ-100, Halli SX-110 etc, just didn't seem to really have
the
> > "punch". After I overhauled Don's National NC183D that had 3 IF's and
a
> > circuit design quite similar to the SX-71, that opinion was further
> > reinforced. In that set I had to change a couple resistors (per
factory
> > recommendation) to decrease the gain slightly as it was unstable.
> >
> > So anyway, I sat down with the schematic and tube manual to see if I
could
> > determine why it's gain seemed so modest for the tube lineup. Didn't
take
> > me long to spot it. The 2nd IF stage had it's tube cathode biased very
> > high and an unusually low screen Voltage on the screen grid. So, I dug
> > out ye old trusty soldering iron and set the cathode resistor and
screen
> > Voltage to the same level that the 1st and 3rd IF stages use, which is
a
> > normal and expected value. Voila! Gain and AGC action came up to my
> > expectations. It won't affect overall sensitivity/noise figure as that
is
> > mostly determined by the RF amplifier and first mixer stages. What it
> > does affect, especially on the higher frequencies is how well the AGC
> > performs and how high you need to turn the volume on the weak stations.
> > Before you always had to 'crank it up' on weak stations on the 17 &
21MHz
> > bands, which is why I nearly always used the Ameco Nuvistor preamp over
15
> > MHz. The thing really sounds good now and that is without the preamp!
> >
> > The SX-71 is claimed to be the first double conversion set on the
market.
> > They also wanted the selectivity and perhaps a 'little' extra gain that
an
> > extra IF amplifier gave them. I can think of no explanation of why the
> > receiver was purposely 'tamed down' by crippling the 2nd IF and putting
> > coils that are sub par for the BCB band in an otherwise hot set.
Perhaps
> > 3 IF stages were so rare back then that they felt the "little" added
boost
> > was sufficient, while now days we are used to all receivers having
several
> > AGC controlled stages that give superb AGC action.
> >
> > <end of article>
> >
> > 73 de Phil, KO6BB
> > DX begins at the noise floor!
> >
> > THE BEACONEER'S LAIR: http://www.geocities.com/ko6bb/
> > MY RADIO-LOGS: http://www.geocities.com/ko6bb/Logs/
> > QSL GALLERY: http://photobucket.com/albums/y123/KO6BB/
> > Merced, Central California, 37.3N 120.48W CM97sh
> >
> >
> > ----- Original Message -----
> >
> >> Let's see if I have this sequence right-
> >>
> >> Someone discovers that changing a resistor in a stage leads to better
> >> performance and posts this for everyone's benefit.
> >>
> >> Someone else posts a message indicating that this mod is similar to
one
> >> found in a pre-written article. That article is identified with a link
> >> for everyone to see.
> >>
> >> The author of this earlier article contacts the list administrator to
> >> protest that someone has hijacked his material without giving him
credit.
> >>
> >> Right so far? OK-so if I discover a mod for a radio and post it for
> >> everyone's benefit, not knowing that someone else has "discovered"
this
> >> earlier and written an article on it then I am contravening
"copyright"
> >> laws?
> >>
> >> Horse puckey!! Let's get real! I know Americans are a litiginous
> >> society but let's not get carried away here. This is ham radio, not
the
> >> great Blackberry steal.
> >>
> >> Bill, VE3NH
> >
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Message: 4
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 15:56:35 -0500
From: "Bob" <k1vv at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Copyright REQUIREMENTS
To: "jeff" <jeffv at op.net>, <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <00ec01c642f2$c9ecdc60$c9d0bd43 at YOUR13E050B673>
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If this starts getting into politics ...... you can sign me out....
It has no place here ......
K1VV
----- Original Message -----
From: "jeff" <jeffv at op.net>
To: <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:29 PM
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Copyright REQUIREMENTS
Gentlemen, gentlemen, gentlemen, (and other list members):
Can't we at least have witty, sarcastic, intelligent rants and wars? If
the rest of us have to sit through the nonsense, at least make it
interesting and/or amusing.
Or, here's a really new concept; take it offlist! Simply because the
message has Halli in it somewhere doesn't make it topical.
By way of example, the next paragraph will be on topic.
How big an idiot was I to purchase an S120 for my first Halli? Not only
that - I had the unmitigated audacity to think I could actually align
the bugger. Me, the guy who only recently learned (the hard way) that
you have to wait til the tube cools down before taking it out.
Also by way of example, the next paragraph will be off-topic (but I'll
do the american thing and blame it on pack mentality).
If our brave servicepeople over in Iraq are protecting our freedoms and
liberty, why aren't they running missions in D.C., where our freedoms
and liberty are actually being threatened?
Now I shall duck and await further fallout :)
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Message: 5
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 13:52:56 -0700
From: "TC Dailey" <daileyservices at qwest.net>
Subject: [Hallicrafters] Sheesh
To: hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
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Okay gang, lets all make up and play nice.
After all, most of us used to only run 75 watts,
so nobody's really THAT special.
TC
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Message: 6
Date: Wed, 8 Mar 2006 14:58:02 -0600
From: "Dan Cotsirilos K9DTC" <dcsfree at comcast.net>
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] SX71 MOD, a reprise
To: "GBrown" <gkbrown at gwi.net>, "Duane Fischer, W8DBF"
<dfischer at usol.com>, "Philip Atchley" <Beaconeer at sbcglobal.net>,
"Magoo" <magoo at isp.ca>, <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
Message-ID: <074a01c642f2$fdd4ac10$0202a8c0 at yourn3ty7athd5>
Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset="iso-8859-1";
reply-type=original
I will say only one thing only once, That MOD is about a copy rightable as
changing a tire with a socket wrench or which way you comb your hair!
Dan K9DTC
----- Original Message -----
From: "GBrown" <gkbrown at gwi.net>
To: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com>; "Philip Atchley"
<Beaconeer at sbcglobal.net>; "Magoo" <magoo at isp.ca>;
<hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:50 PM
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] SX71 MOD, a reprise
> Who said I took this from someone, YOU did. I was only passing on what I
> had
> done to a restoration, and what I had come by on my own, no ones help.
> What YOU are doing is just plain harassment. You have a problem with me,
> get it out in the open. Don't HIDE behind some trumped up charge or
> allegation.
> Duane, be a man, take responsibility for your actions.
> Gary...
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com>
> To: "Philip Atchley" <Beaconeer at sbcglobal.net>; "Magoo" <magoo at isp.ca>;
> <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 2:57 PM
> Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] SX71 MOD, a reprise
>
>
>> Phil (and all)
>>
>> When someone takes the copyrighted work of another without permission,
or
>> does so with permission, you always credit the source and the author. To
> do
>> otherwise is theft and/or plagerism, depending on whether or not the
> person
>> taking said material 'claims' to be the author. What Gary Brown did was
>> wrong and unethical.
>>
>> Whether it is donated or whether it is not, what is on the HCI web site
>> is
>> copyrighted under that entity. If someone wants to reprintn something,
> they
>> need to get permission from the Web Master first.
>>
>> Gary is just complaining because once again he got caught being
dishonest
>> and is trying to pass the buck elsewhere.
>>
>> The HCI policy is clearly stated. If you wish to reprint an item or
>> photo,
>> ask the Web Master first. Then credit the source and the author or
>> contributor. What is there is for the benefit of all, but we also have
an
>> obligation to those who donate their work to protect it from theft,
>> misuse
>> etc. Not all of what is on the HCI web site is donated! Hence the "Get
>> Permission First" policy.
>>
>> Duane Fischer, W8DBF
>>
>> ----- Original Message -----
>> From: "Philip Atchley" <Beaconeer at sbcglobal.net>
>> To: "Magoo" <magoo at isp.ca>; <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
>> Sent: Wednesday, March 08, 2006 10:14 AM
>> Subject: [Hallicrafters] SX71 MOD, a reprise
>>
>>
>> > Hi All,
>> >
>> > Sheesh, if I'd have realized what a firestorm all this was going to
> create
>> > I would have kept my mouth shut, or rather, my fingers off the
>> > keyboard!
>> >
>> > Anything that I submit or come up with, whether on my web site or via
>> > Email, is for the full benefit of the boatanchor community. The SX71
>> > "mod" (which I first posted in the form of an Email and which was
>> > subsequently copied to the HCI site with my approval) that I came up
> with
>> > was 'slightly' more than just the cathode resistor, I also changed the
>> > screen bias etc. of the second stage. Still, all pretty simple stuff.
>> > All that the HCI folks did was copy my email to the Web-site and add
> some
>> > advertising pictures to make it interesting.
>> >
>> > As far as I'm concerned, the written part that I produced can be
>> > printed
>> > and may be freely used anywhere so long as there isn't any monetary
>> > compensation (though if it's copied to any web-site etc. I'd
appreciate
>> > credit). So far as I know, the PICTURES ARE HCI PROPERTY and any
>> > needed
>> > permission should be definitely be obtained to use them.
>> >
>> > Since I originally wrote the article, and only parts of it made it's
> away
>> > "around the circuit", I'm re-posting a copy here from my own
archives.
>> > Enjoy!
>> >
>> > <Pasted in>
>> > I decided to take a '2nd' look at the SX-71. While it played quite
>> > well
> I
>> > never felt like it was doing all that a receiver with 3 IF stages
>> > should
>> > do. Front end seemed sensitive enough, but overall gain and AGC
action,
>> > while a little better than 'most' receivers with 2 IF's like the
>> > Hammarlund HQ-100, Halli SX-110 etc, just didn't seem to really have
>> > the
>> > "punch". After I overhauled Don's National NC183D that had 3 IF's and
>> > a
>> > circuit design quite similar to the SX-71, that opinion was further
>> > reinforced. In that set I had to change a couple resistors (per
>> > factory
>> > recommendation) to decrease the gain slightly as it was unstable.
>> >
>> > So anyway, I sat down with the schematic and tube manual to see if I
> could
>> > determine why it's gain seemed so modest for the tube lineup. Didn't
> take
>> > me long to spot it. The 2nd IF stage had it's tube cathode biased
very
>> > high and an unusually low screen Voltage on the screen grid. So, I
dug
>> > out ye old trusty soldering iron and set the cathode resistor and
>> > screen
>> > Voltage to the same level that the 1st and 3rd IF stages use, which is
>> > a
>> > normal and expected value. Voila! Gain and AGC action came up to my
>> > expectations. It won't affect overall sensitivity/noise figure as
that
> is
>> > mostly determined by the RF amplifier and first mixer stages. What it
>> > does affect, especially on the higher frequencies is how well the AGC
>> > performs and how high you need to turn the volume on the weak
stations.
>> > Before you always had to 'crank it up' on weak stations on the 17 &
> 21MHz
>> > bands, which is why I nearly always used the Ameco Nuvistor preamp
over
> 15
>> > MHz. The thing really sounds good now and that is without the preamp!
>> >
>> > The SX-71 is claimed to be the first double conversion set on the
> market.
>> > They also wanted the selectivity and perhaps a 'little' extra gain
that
> an
>> > extra IF amplifier gave them. I can think of no explanation of why
the
>> > receiver was purposely 'tamed down' by crippling the 2nd IF and
putting
>> > coils that are sub par for the BCB band in an otherwise hot set.
> Perhaps
>> > 3 IF stages were so rare back then that they felt the "little" added
> boost
>> > was sufficient, while now days we are used to all receivers having
> several
>> > AGC controlled stages that give superb AGC action.
>> >
>> > <end of article>
>> >
>> > 73 de Phil, KO6BB
>> > DX begins at the noise floor!
>> >
>> > THE BEACONEER'S LAIR: http://www.geocities.com/ko6bb/
>> > MY RADIO-LOGS: http://www.geocities.com/ko6bb/Logs/
>> > QSL GALLERY: http://photobucket.com/albums/y123/KO6BB/
>> > Merced, Central California, 37.3N 120.48W CM97sh
>> >
>> >
>> > ----- Original Message -----
>> >
>> >> Let's see if I have this sequence right-
>> >>
>> >> Someone discovers that changing a resistor in a stage leads to better
>> >> performance and posts this for everyone's benefit.
>> >>
>> >> Someone else posts a message indicating that this mod is similar to
>> >> one
>> >> found in a pre-written article. That article is identified with a
link
>> >> for everyone to see.
>> >>
>> >> The author of this earlier article contacts the list administrator to
>> >> protest that someone has hijacked his material without giving him
> credit.
>> >>
>> >> Right so far? OK-so if I discover a mod for a radio and post it for
>> >> everyone's benefit, not knowing that someone else has "discovered"
>> >> this
>> >> earlier and written an article on it then I am contravening
>> >> "copyright"
>> >> laws?
>> >>
>> >> Horse puckey!! Let's get real! I know Americans are a litiginous
>> >> society but let's not get carried away here. This is ham radio, not
> the
>> >> great Blackberry steal.
>> >>
>> >> Bill, VE3NH
>> >
>> > ______________________________________________________________
>> > Hallicrafters mailing list
>> > Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/hallicrafters
>> > Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.html
>> > Post: mailto:Hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
>> > ----
>> > List Administrator: Duane Fischer, W8DBF **for assistance**
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