[Hallicrafters] Re: Idiot Contesters R' Us

Sun Mar 5 16:22:49 EST 2006

Yep it would be a very easy thing to do, limit the congest ( contest) to just a small slot of the band, its fair and should be that way , why not? And lets eliminate the split operation.
  73 tim
  wb8uhz

Old Man <ebjr at i-55.com> wrote:
  Gee, I hate to comment on this, as it is a sore subject with me.
I do "contest" somewhat, but mostly QRP ones and 160 meter ones.
I have no problem with a "band takeover" once or twice a year
on 160 meters. The level of activity is amazing. Wish a small percentage 
of it would stay there year round so there would be someone to QSO with.

What REALLY gripes me is the RTTY bunch with contest after contest
over the entire CW band! Most other contests are usually limited to some
segment of the CW band, but they don't seem to care to do this.
Invade the "digital" portion of CW bandplan any other time with a non digital
mode and you get loud howls about "not sticking to bandplan"!

I REALLY feel like a contest event should stick to a limited part of the
spectrum. How to "enforce" this? Simply by having ARRL "Observer Corps"
or some "watchdog stations" monitor band limits of contest. Whoever gets
say 2-3 "gigs" gets his log disqualified. Simple as that. No fines, no FCC.

I know some guys really get their jollies contesting all the time, but there are
other guys trying to do other things out there too that need some relief from the
madness. It definitely needs some 'curbing' or moderation, as some of it is
getting rampant.
My two penny's worth.

73,
Sandy W5TVW
----- Original Message ----- 
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To: ; "john" 
Sent: Sunday, March 05, 2006 8:03 AM
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Re: Idiot Contesters R' Us

| John if it hurts its true and if you have no defense you normally try to 
| offend the other party or limit their credibility, no beer here , just good 
| common sense John. I've been a ham for 31 years, contests are nothing more 
| than a ridiculous use of the spectrum by a few self centered self pleasing 
| hams. who spend a lot to win a senseless game, and operate poorly to do so. 
| Why not limit contests to a small portion of the band, why is it that just a 
| few insignificant hams in numbers ( CQ magazine notes contesters comprise 
| only 2% of active hams ) can take the entire spectrum and play a game all 
| weekend long, why do you think you have the right to do that. The 40 meter 
| band is just 150 KCS. wide, take 500 hams , less that one percent of the 
| hams in Ohio and tell them to play contest and what does the band sound 
| like. crap.
| No beer here John, but you need to go back look in the mirror and take a 
| long look at who you are and what you are and then perhaps you can come up 
| with something better for all of us or perhaps come up with a better reason 
| for contests than accusing someone of drinking, perhaps you could even be 
| honest John.. listen to your fellow hams who are fed up with contesting.
| 73 Tim
| wb8uhz
| ----- Original Message ----- 
| From: "john" 
| To: ; 
| Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 8:19 PM
| Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Re: Idiot Contesters R' Us
| 
| 
| > It's careful reasoned comments like yours, that carry so much weight with 
| > others Tim. Are you well into your second six pack?
| >
| > By the way, I've been operating AM with vintage gear for 20 yrs now (along 
| > with QRP, CW DXing and contesting). Nice of you to portray AM ops with 
| > such grace and tact.
| >
| > Have a nice day!
| >
| > John K5MO
| >
| >
| > At 07:57 PM 3/4/2006, amfone at sbcglobal.net wrote:
| >> Give us all a break and run your contest in a 10 kc portion of any band 
| >> and beat your brains out, 59 good buddy
| >>and please repeat your name. call and qth ... but your 59... crap! To win 
| >>a contest you need to spend more money
| >>and be a lid operator.
| >>Tim
| >>----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Brannigan" 
| >>
| >>To: "john" ; 
| >>Sent: Saturday, March 04, 2006 6:53 PM
| >>Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Re: Idiot Contesters R' Us
| >>
| >>
| >>>In one hour or so, worked 30 countries on 20M...had to crank up the KW 
| >>>for the JA's....
| >>>LOVE contests.....but CW is much more fun.
| >>>
| >>>I feel bad for all those 20M fone guys who did not get to discuss 
| >>>hemorrhoids and liver spots today.
| >>>
| >>>Jim
| >>>
| >>>
| >>>> >The idiot contesters are all aglow on the bands, and there are few
| >>>> spots >to
| >>>> >be had.
| >>>>
| >>>>You don't know what you're missing! A great opportunity to work a lot of 
| >>>>dx...with Halli's even. Of course it's more fun on CW....
| >>>>
| >>>>John K5MO (Idiot Contester)
| >>>
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