[Hallicrafters] Hali Paint jobs

Tue Jun 7 13:41:39 EDT 2005

Al is correct. If anyone ever gave the clique expression "shades of gray" a
substantive existence it was the Hallicrafters Company! I do not know for
certain who the paint suppliers were, but I think they must have used color
blind employees to do the color mix/match! Although the most common form of
color blindness is the 'red/green shift', it is true that those with it can see
many variances in gray that those with normal vision can not. However, I serious
doubt this was the reason for Hallicrafters products having so many "shades of
gray"!	

Has anyone with extra time on his/her hands bothered to count how many variances
there actually are? Sure would be a neat trivia fact to know! Who do we ask?
Maybe Chuck Datchis who has perhaps the most extensive collection of
Hallicrafters items, at least that i am aware of?  	

Let me suggest to all who are interested in this, and 'other' commonly asked
questions, to go to the HCI web site and use the search engine to explore the
topic in the various QTH.NET archives. Many such archives can be searched from
there, not 'just' Hallicrafters! Normally material is retained for about thirty
months, or 2.5 years, for the math or pencil with useable lead challenged.
(chuckle) Using the archives 'prior' to posting the question on a list also
saves unnecessary list traffic, less bandwidth = quicker response time, and may
get you faster and more complete answers.	

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From: Al Parker <anchor at ec.rr.com>
To: Roger K8RI <hallicraftersgroup at rogerhalstead.com>; halliqth
<hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>; Glen Zook <gzook at YAHOO.COM>
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Hali Paint jobs
Date: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 7:44 AM

Hi Roger, et al,
    This topic comes up regularly, and we just went thru it, tho' the
subject was R-42 & R-46 speakers.  It ends up a subjective discussion, and
here's my subjective opinion, plus some experience.
    The paint shade and reflectance probably both have aged differently on
different pcs of eqpt over the  yrs, and there may have been more than one
actual mix that was used originally.  Nobody can tell us for sure that
something "must be" a certain presently available paint.  It comes down to
what the present owner thinks it oughta be, and what he wants it to be.
    From what I've seen, the HT-32/SX-101 series (and Drake twins &
TR-3/4's) were very close
to the Rustoleum V7777, which I've used on them for yrs.  I think the
S-40, and maybe the SX-71 & S-76, were closer to the Krylon 1613,
Semi-Flat Black.  It is flatter than the Rustoleum V7777, and maybe just
because of the reflectance, it seems a little "lighter" black.  They are
not the same.  I think the speakers were also very close to the Krylon
1613, and I used it on an S-76 last yr.
    For the silver you may use Plasticote #1542 Burnished Silver, or
Duplicolor # T229W Silver M, both are "truck & van" paint.  I've used the
Duplicolor, and sometimes have covered it with a clear coat.  I know I've
seen some tops that were more of a flat gray.
    Glen has advised in the past that you take your cabinet or piece to a
place that mixes paint, Sherwin Williams (if it does commercial/industrial
paints), or an auto paint supplier.  They can usually match what you
presently have, but maybe not the amount of gloss/flatness or reflectance.
I've had total failure trying to get certain Hammarlund Super Pro panels
matched that way.
    Again, it's all in the eye of the beholder.
73,
Al, W8UT
New Bern, NC
BoatAnchors appreciated here
http://www.thecompendium.net/radio/
http://www.hammarlund.info

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Roger K8RI" <hallicraftersgroup at rogerhalstead.com>
To: "Glen Zook" <gzook at yahoo.com>; <Hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Tuesday, June 07, 2005 1:25 AM
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] Hali Paint jobs

> Hi Glen,
>
> The semi-gloss in the black matches a "satin" and it looks nice.  If it
> weren't setting next to factory paint you'd never know.  OTOH my HT32
and
> SX101 (No suffix) have a very shiny, or high gloss finish where as the
> HT-32B and SX-101A are *fairly* close matches.
>
> I haven't found anything to match the silver/gray tops except that
custom
> mix which I don't think is available any more, so I'm going to take all
the
> cabinet tops, prep them and then do all at once.  I'll take a sample in
and
> see if I can get an automotive enamle mixed to match which is what I
think
> this is.
>
> I started cleaning the one SX-101A and am finding the chassis (under all
> that dirt) to look quite nice.  Yes, there is some discoloration, but no
> rust.  The cabinet looks pretty rough, but the panel and insides are
nice.
>
> Now, I need 4 of those "big rubber feet" they used on the HT-33B as all
I
> have are the smaller ones.  They make it match up with the other
equipment,
> but it can't get as much cooling air from underneath.
>
> Roger Halstead (K8RI and ARRL 40 year Life Member)
> N833R - World's oldest Debonair CD-2
> www.rogerhalstead.com
>
> >I have found that "satin" finish comes the closest to
> > the original finish on many cabinets.
> >
> > Glen, K9STH
> >
> >
> > --- Roger K8RI <hallicraftersgroup at rogerhalstead.com>
> > wrote:
> >
> > I tried the Krylon Semi Gloss black and although the
> > color is about right the finish doesn't match any of
> > the rigs on the bench or in the racks.
> >
> > Glen, K9STH
> >
> > Web sites
> >
> > http://home.comcast.net/~k9sth
> > http://home.comcast.net/~zcomco
> >
> >

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