[Hallicrafters] FCC NPRM

EXT-Craft, Clifford H clifford.h.craft at boeing.com
Fri Jul 22 08:33:47 EDT 2005 

Now what will the rabid anti cw people do for fun? On EHAM.NET  and others, any time cw comes up they all  come out of the woodwork to scream about the " antiquated mode". By the way, I was grandfathered to general when I took my 13 wpm since at that time the tech was 5 wpm and the general written test. Then I took the advanced the same day and passed. Took me 2 tries to get the speed for the extra though.
Cliff wa0rox

-----Original Message-----
From: Sandy, W5TVW [mailto:ebjr at i-55.com] 
Sent: Thursday, July 21, 2005 8:57 AM
To: Duane Fischer, W8DBF; Bill Gerhold; W4AWM at aol.com; hallicraftersgroup at rogerhalstead.com
Cc: hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] FCC NPRM


Duane, you bring up an interesting point.  On the police officers:  we have had incidents in the New Orleans area where a plethora of ammo was expended way above what is normal! Recently, officers were chasing a pickup truck with 3 young male subjects inside.  After the truck was cornered, the driver was killed and the other two were wounded, as police claimed the truck was backing up on them.  There was several officers on the scene and somewhere between 100 and 150 rounds were fired!  The subjects in the truck were NOT armed!  Sounds like the officers were "having fun" or their aim was terribly poor! Having worn a "blue suit" at one time, the tactics used these days seem adopted from some despotic police state instead of a Constitutional Republic.  This applies to radio regulation as well today!  The authorities seems to cater to "where the money is", and that's all that really seems to matter. 73, Sandy W5TVW
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Duane Fischer, W8DBF" <dfischer at usol.com>
To: "Bill Gerhold" <k2wh at optonline.net>; <W4AWM at aol.com>; <hallicraftersgroup at rogerhalstead.com>
Cc: <hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 9:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] FCC NPRM


| Bill,
| 
| There is still time for all of us who are opposed to the plan "as is" 
| to write and file our formal remarks. I would encourage all to do 
| exactly that! Not just to the FCC, but also to your state Congressman 
| or Congresswoman and state Senator as well. Present a solid case, 
| backed up by facts these people can grasp. They are busy, they will 
| not read a long letter. Keep it short, keep it polite, keep it 
| focused, keep it on facts they can relate to. Such as the importance 
| of what Ham Radi does for protecting residents in severe weather 
| situations for the NWS, handling emergency traffic during a hurricane 
| and so forth. They are always interested in the human element, as that 
| is who goes to the polls!
| 
| Remind them that cheapening the qualifications for a Ham is just the 
| same as making police officers less capable with a weapon by requiring 
| less practice time on the range under strict supervision and training 
| by experienced senior officers, or knowing when to pursue a vehicle in 
| a chase and when not to, or risking a disaster by saving money and 
| shortening training time for a fireman who getes less training and 
| simulated experience in selecting the right agent to put out a fire 
| with. Hams save lives and our elected officials must be made to 
| realize it, appreciate it and protect our rights! This is not done by 
| giving out licenses and lowering the standards so that anyone who 
| wants one can get one. Remind them it may be their child who is saved 
| because a trained spotter for the Sky Warn program in their community 
| identifies a for real lowering of a tornadic cloud and the NWS gets 
| out a warning, the children in the school in the storms path take 
| shelter and their lives are spared. We are important and anything that 
| makes us less capable, less skilled and less able to operate properly 
| and effectively is a threat to America!
| 
| While I personally am opposed to the CW being abandoned totally, after 
| all, five words per minute is NOT some great challenge! While it may 
| be difficult for some people, it is doable by almost anyone who really 
| wants to get a license. For those with special needs, there are 
| alternatives already available. Even if the CW is only retained for 
| the Extra class, i do not think anybody should be hurt by that. I do 
| not believe that anyone should be grandfathered, or in any way by any 
| name, switched from a Technician class license to a General class 
| license without first taking and passing the General class written 
| examination. If we do not want to end up with Citizens Band all over 
| again, then we MUST educate, train and instruct all those joining 
| Amateur Radio, as well as all of those upgrading their licenses, in 
| the right ways and not just give the licenses away like is being 
| proposed. If Ham Radio is ruined, it will be because all of us sat on 
| our butts with our hands in our pockets and did not even try to 
| prevent what we could have stopped! The 'powers that be' will, and do, 
| hear our voices and will respond 'IF' we all band together and bury 
| their desks under so many 'real' postage stamp variety of letters it 
| looks like a snow storm hit the room! Electronic mail is not 
| effective! It is almost never seen by the person, it is read and all 
| too often discarded by a secretary or other person. At best it gets a 
| minor notation in a ledger that the Congressperson or Senator may, or 
| may not, see every week or month. Then he/she glances at it. But a 
| letter on their desk, it gets attention.
| 
| Not my opinion, but the suggestions given to me by the staff of 
| several Congressmen and state Senators I know. But we all first have 
| to take a few minutes to write a short, concise, easy to understand 
| and 'important to America' letter and mail it, or we have nobody but 
| ourselves to blame when the Amateur Radio bands become a sewer of waste products as happendd with Citizens Band
| radio.            
| 
| Duane Fischer, W8DBF
| 
| 
| 
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| From: Bill Gerhold <k2wh at optonline.net>
| To: W4AWM at aol.com; hallicraftersgroup at rogerhalstead.com
| Cc: hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
| Subject: RE: [Hallicrafters] FCC NPRM
| Date: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 8:46 PM
| 
| It's a damn shame the FCC decided to go with the flow and follow the 
| 3rd world rule making entities.  I thought the FCC would lead the 
| world and make a bold statement by keeping the code at least for the 
| Extra portion of the bands.
| 
| But, what will all this mean when the Report and Order comes down?  
| Does it mean techs/no-code techs will have General privileges?  Will 
| they be grandfathered?
| 
| K2WH
| 
| -----Original Message-----
| From: hallicrafters-bounces at mailman.qth.net
| [mailto:hallicrafters-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of 
| W4AWM at aol.com
| Sent: Wednesday, July 20, 2005 8:13 PM
| To: hallicraftersgroup at rogerhalstead.com
| Cc: hallicrafters at mailman.qth.net
| Subject: Re: [Hallicrafters] FCC NPRM
| 
| Someone should remind the powers that be that the first and many 
| subsequent
| communications to come out of the tsunami area was CW!
| 
| If this keeps up, I guess we will all be good buddies soon. Guess I 
| will go
| into the power mic, roger tones and echo box business!
| 
| 73,
| 
| John,  W4AWM
| 
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