[GreenKeys] Astoria OR Teletype equip (again)

Jeff G jeffg at junknet.net
Mon Jun 12 16:56:24 EDT 2023


So I'm not sure how many here would get it, but given the location and all,
do we need to have Cyndi Lauper do a new song called "GreenKeys are Good
enough"?

Jeff

On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 4:05 PM Andy KN4UCL <kn4ucl at gmail.com> wrote:

> actually it's a great dream!  Similar thoughts here in FL.  but as you
> say.. useful cheap land does not exist anymore
>
> On Mon, Jun 12, 2023 at 3:30 PM Jordan Spencer Cunningham <js at teletype.net>
> wrote:
>
>> I have a dream of building a warehouse somewhere out here and storing
>> parts and equipment originally destined for landfills for future
>> distribution. Problem is even the most useless, worthless land out here is
>> stupid expensive until you get a few hours away from my location with no
>> electricity and often not even dirt access roads. One day I hope to do
>> something like this, but it's a long way off if it ever happens. My
>> intentions are of no use right now.
>>
>> I built a small barn on my residential property for a similar purpose,
>> but part of George's haul plus some smaller hauls from elsewhere have
>> almost filled it up at this point.
>>
>> When there are only a few hundred of us in the country and few to none
>> can afford the temporal and monetary capital to store more than a few
>> machines even if we want to, it's an uphill battle. Moth, rust, and thieves
>> shall claim it all eventually.
>>
>> And mice. Don't forget the mice.
>>
>> My wife jokes that I could have gotten into stamps or coins that are
>> light and small, but I just had to get into old comms equipment.
>>
>> Like many, I'm sure I could find some room for a few machines to help
>> handle this load, but I currently don't have a way to go out and get them.
>> A countrywide road trip for distribution to GKers does sound pretty fun,
>> though, if I simply had the time for such a long trip. If my kids were
>> older, I'd take them with me and give them a great education on the way.
>> Any chance the stuff can stay in the warehouse for 6 - 7 years instead of
>> months? :)
>>
>> -
>> Jordan Spencer Cunningham
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>> On Mon, Jun 12, 2023, at 12:49 PM, Daniel Jones wrote:
>>
>> My father is going to go out and get an idea of the amount of stuff to
>> make room in the warehouse.  I talked to David and he said that it’s about
>> 2 uhauls worth of stuff.  We should be able to keep it in the warehouse for
>> 6-7 months.  I will keep everyone updated because we will definitely need a
>> few people to move the stuff.  I told him it could be 1-2 months before we
>> could get it but it could be done.
>>
>> More to follow,
>> Daniel
>>
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>> DJones at K6YIC.com
>> HH#11973
>>
>> On Jun 12, 2023, at 07:15, James Harper <kh6cn at earthlink.net> wrote:
>>
>> 
>>
>> Good Morning Daniel,
>>
>>
>>
>> I live near near Seattle, WA . I can drive down to Astoria and help with
>> the move of the equipment...
>>
>>
>>
>> Just let me know when...
>>
>>
>>
>> Jim, KH6CN
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: Daniel Jones <djones at k6yic.com>
>> Sent: Jun 11, 2023 1:32 PM
>> To: Paul Heller <paul0926 at comcast.net>
>> Cc: <GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Astoria OR Teletype equip (again)
>>
>>
>> I am going to talk to my parents and brother and then call this guy to
>> see how long he needs, I probably have the area up there to store it for
>> 6-7 months its just a matter of making it back up there.  I have also
>> talked to Ira Moser who is up that way to see about moving it too.  My
>> parents have a warehouse and a 24’ box trailer.  If it’s free then it might
>> be worth it.  After all this place isn’t to far from my parents warehouse,
>> its just really far for me.  Hihi. More to follow on Monday or Tuesday.
>> This was the estate of David Ross.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> Daniel Jones (K6YIC)
>> DJones at k6yic.com
>> http://K6YIC.com
>> HH Phone #11973
>> [image: image.png]
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2023, at 13:19, Paul Heller <paul0926 at comcast.net> wrote:
>>
>> We’d also have to pay a moving company to move all the stuff into storage
>> because volunteers in that area are pretty much nonexistent. And it’s
>> highly likely that we would never empty that storage bin, and then what?
>>
>> George Hutchison tried years ago to reason with the guy and was willing
>> at that time to do all the work to arrange distribution. He planned to go
>> down there to survey it.  George’s idea was that someone would rent a truck
>> and drive across country dropping off equipment for everybody. That’s a
>> nice idea, but who’s going to do that?
>>
>> And then something happened, and George never knew what. The guy pretty
>> much handed George his hat and said some strong words. George never figured
>> out what he did to piss the guy off. It was probably a big
>> misunderstanding. Plus the guy wanted a lot of money. George’s effort ended
>> after that and George said he’d never go near the place, he was out. What
>> was this? 5 years ago? Maybe longer?
>>
>> Sorry to be negative but we need to be realistic.
>>
>> There was another fellow named Pete Lancashire who had a large collection
>> in that area of the country. George was responsible for the distribution of
>> all Pete’s teletype gear (there was a lot) from his estate. George put out
>> notices for people to come and get it.. Few to no volunteers came to move
>> the stuff out (I do think someone did take something. Was that you,
>> Daniel?). George paid out his own pocket to make arrangements and took most
>> of it to his house, hoping to give it away, and people would not even go to
>> his house to pick it up.
>>
>> Sad story. Who’s left to collect this equipment and preserve it for all
>> time? Thank goodness the AWA museum is doing that.  Thank goodness for
>> Duncan who has set it all up there.
>>
>> I always dreamed of starting a museum for this. It would serve as a place
>> for all my Teletype equipment along with a lot of old computing equipment
>> (some very old). So I could get it started. But I’d need a benefactor to
>> fund it. Space is expensive. That’s the hard part.
>>
>> So, after saying all that, I truly hope this turns out well.
>>
>> Paul
>>
>> On Jun 11, 2023, at 4:56 AM, Harold Hallikainen via GreenKeys <
>> greenkeys at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> If the equipment would fit in a self storage unit near there, perhaps
>> several of us could pool the rent on something until the equipment is
>> distributed.
>>
>> Harold
>> https://w6iwi.org
>>
>>
>> On Sat, June 10, 2023 7:43 pm, Daniel Jones wrote:
>> I got the same call.  My parents live about 15 miles from him, I wish he
>> would have called 2 months ago while I was up there.  I know Ira Moser is
>> up there also.  Now that he wants it hauled out maybe we can make
>> something work.
>>
>> Daniel
>>
>>
>> Daniel Jones (K6YIC)
>> DJones at k6yic.com
>> http://K6YIC.com <http://k6yic.com/>
>> HH Phone #11973
>>
>>>>
>> On Jun 10, 2023, at 17:40, Steven Shumaker <shumaker at att.net> wrote:
>>
>>
>> The topic of the 2020 email threads talking about a warehouse full of
>> radio and TTY equipment has reawakened.  David Mercado (owner) called me
>> today to inquire if I was "still interested" in the lot.  He states he
>> still has 90% of what was advertised back the first time around and
>> wants to know if anyone is interested in hauling it away.   He stated
>> the next stop is the scrap yard so perhaps he's more receptive to
>> mocving stuff.  There was extensive discussion here on GK about this
>> back in March 2020 but it apparently came to naught.  It has apparently
>> been picked over by locals for the radio stuff but most of the TTY stuff
>> is supposedly still there.  I pointed him at Greenkeys (again) and he
>> seemed inclined to post a msg here.  I have his email if anyone would
>> care to go direct and discuss it.
>>
>> Steve
>>
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