[GreenKeys] XR2211 demodulator circuit boards?

eric epvgk at limpoc.com
Mon Jan 25 18:56:11 EST 2021


On 2021-01-24 20:15, hwhall at compuserve.com wrote:

> So, those were available for sale but no longer, correct? Is there perhaps a photoetch mask available for making one or two the DIY way?
> 
> Wayne 
> WB4OGM

Hi Wayne - 

I made a bunch of them and distributed them on the list in (i think)
2016. The run I did sold out a while ago, 
but some other people may have made some or have extras they would part
with. If you only need one 
I may still have an extra unpopulated board or even an assembled one
lying around. 

If my copy of Eagle still functions I can see if I can export a
postscript file of the copper layer for 
photo etching, though my confidence in getting the size/scale exactly
right isn't 100%.  I think Steve Garrison is converting it to KiCad,
too. 

You're also welcome to the Eagle files themselves and/or the gerbers
generated from it of course. Nothing proprietary here! 

Since that design there's been some turnover in parts availability - the
original optoisolator/solid state relay is no longer made, but there are
some quite superior ones sharing the same pinouts and with better
parameters now. Just a quick parametric search on DigiKey's part
selector shows these as likely good candidates, but note I haven't
actually tested these. 

https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/toshiba-semiconductor-and-storage/TLP797J-F/1823640
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/vishay-semiconductor-opto-division/LH1550AT1/4072654
https://www.digikey.com/en/products/detail/vishay-semiconductor-opto-division/VOR1121A6/8023026


eric 

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Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] XR2211 demodulator circuit boards?

On Sun, Jan 24, 2021 at 08:46:10AM +0000, hwhall at compuserve.com wrote:
> I'd encountered some of those pages when I was googling but still no PCB artwork. If someone has already laid them out, I could skip reinventing it.
> 
> WayneWB4OGM

Here's the one I did that got manufactured that people on the list have
a bunch of. 

https://www.heepy.net/index.php/RTTY_demodulator_using_NJM2211

I can dig up gerbers or whatever if you want!

eric

> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Harold Hallikainen <harold at w6iwi.org>
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Sat, Jan 23, 2021 11:19 pm
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] XR2211 demodulator circuit boards?
> 
> 
> > Are there any printed circuit boards for building an XR2211 based RTTY
> > demodulator? Â Google shows me all kinds of articles from complex to
> > over-simplified but doesn't lead me to any PCB artwork or vendors.
> > I'm thinking I might build a demod to run a Model 15 from a laptop running
> > MMTTY. The program only outputs tones (no on-off output to key a loop
> > directly) so a PLL demod should be fine since noise won't be an issue. Or
> > should I look at something even smaller/simpler?
> > Thanks!WayneWB4OGM______________________________________________________________
> 
> There's an evaluation board at
> https://media.digikey.com/pdf/Data%20Sheets/MaxLinear%20PDFs/XR-2206-11-12_Man.pdf [1]
> . I'd be tempted to wire wrap it, though.
> 
> Several products I did using the XR2211 are at
> 
> http://bh.hallikainen.org//wiki/uploads/HaroldHallikainen/20130416125339_Part5.pdf
> 
> http://bh.hallikainen.org//wiki/uploads/HaroldHallikainen/Harold_018.pdf
> 
> http://bh.hallikainen.org//wiki/uploads/HaroldHallikainen/20130416125339_Part1.pdf
> 
> http://bh.hallikainen.org//wiki/uploads/HaroldHallikainen/Harold_011.pdf
> 
> http://bh.hallikainen.org//wiki/uploads/HaroldHallikainen/20130416125553.pdf#page=11
> 
> The XR2211 is a fun chip. Before that, I used the NE565, but the XR2211
> includes the data comparator, a carrier detect, etc. The XR2206 is also a
> nice chip. It will generate a square wave, triangle wave, and sine waves.
> It can do linear FM, AM (including double sideband suppressed carrier),
> and FSK. The FSK circuit has a logic input that switches between two
> timing resistors. But, during the transition, the frequency goes to zero
> for a very short time. I'd probably use the linear FM circuit and drive it
> with the data after running it through a low pass filter to limit
> bandwidth. It IS a nice chip, though. I used it as an upconverter (local
> oscillator and mixer) to upconvert subcarriers on FM broadcast stations to
> 455 kHz where the signal then went through ceramic filters, IF amplifier,
> and a ceramic discriminator.
> 
> Fun stuff!
> 
> Harold
> https://w6iwi.org [2]
> 
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