[GreenKeys] WD-40

Richard Knoppow 1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com
Mon Sep 14 20:17:25 EDT 2020 

     The first cars my family had were equipped with hand 
throttles and chokes. Had to know how to work those. Another 
feature of older manual transmission cars is that one could use 
the starter to move the car. Engine stops and your on the RR 
tracks put the car in low gear and work the starter. Also can 
start cars by rolling down hill or pushing. Can't be done on 
automatic transmission cars.
    I was taught to always warm up a car. A very long time ago, 
the rings didn't seal very well until warmed up. Then a different 
type of ring was developed (forgot what its called) that needed 
only a short warm up. Lots of things different.

On 9/13/2020 4:06 PM, Ralph Irish wrote:
> *I am reminded of the 'good old days', when one could crank 
> their engine *
> *WITH THE IGNITION OFF  for a few seconds to get oil moving 
> around before the*
> *stress of the engine could cause wear on critical parts which 
> might have had*
> *most of the oil 'drip off' and drain to the oil pan.  I'm not 
> talking about*
> *daily use of a car, but for situations where a car might sit 
> for a few weeks*
> *between uses. *
> *
> *
> *Another thing overlooked these days is a 'warmup period' 
> before putting the*
> *car in gear.  This, too, will make certain that oil is 
> distributed throughout*
> *the engine before the stresses of motion occur.*
> *
> *
> *Five to 15 seconds in moderate weather and 15 to 30 seconds in 
> real cold weather,*
> *and other intervals based on temperature and how long since 
> the engine last ran.*
> *
> *
> *I had a friend from work who jumped into his car, started the 
> engine and had it*
> *in gear in a second or two.  He could never explain why he had 
> so many things*
> *go wrong over the life of the car.  He was blaming Ford for 
> the marginal things*
> *that happened to his engine and transmission.*
> *
> *
> *I learned one thing from my dad in my youth and that was that 
> warming up an *
> *engine cost very little and paid off in low numbers of 
> maintenance things. *
> *
> *
> *-   -   -   -*
> *
> *
> *When I bought a new Volvo 544 back in 1962, I happened to be 
> the first customer at*
> *a new dealership.  I got to know the owner fairly well, and he 
> made a lot of*
> *suggestions about how to keep the car on the road.  He 
> strongly suggested that I*
> *have Castrol put in the car at the first oil change and to use 
> it thereafter.  I *
> *took him at his word, and although we didn't keep the car more 
> than two years, we*
> *had zero problems.  I sold it back to him when we bought our 
> next car since the*
> *dealer gave me a real low-ball offer as a trade-in.  The 
> original dealer gave me*
> *about $800 more, since he was very familiar with the history 
> of the car. *
> *
> *
> *I was working for Ford, and since it looked like I would be 
> there for a while, we*
> *bought a Ford product next.  The job only lasted for 43 years. *
> *
> *
> *73,*
> *
> *
> *Ralph - W8ROI*
> *
> *
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> *
> *On Sep 13, 2020, at 5:32 PM, Richard Knoppow wrote:*
> *
> *
>> *   I have forgotten why detergent is not a good idea for most 
>> machine oil use. I think it depends on being hot to work but 
>> don't remember where I got that. Its possible it gells up 
>> with  time.
>>    There is some useful information at:
>> <https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/oil-types-weights-and-viscosity-faq 
>> <https://www.valvoline.com/about-us/faq/oil-types-weights-and-viscosity-faq>>
>>
>>      Valvoline is the other brand that my racing friends 
>> recommended beside Castrol but is not castor oil.
>>     I also looked up Castor Oil:
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castor_oil 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Castor_oil>>
>>
>> There is some history of Castrol at:
>> <https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article/july-2000/55/castrol-r 
>> <https://www.motorsportmagazine.com/archive/article/july-2000/55/castrol-r>>
>>     It appears from the Castrol main site that most of their 
>> engine oils are conventional petroleum or synthetic oils.
>>     It seems the special conditiions faced by oil in internal 
>> combustion engines, high heat and exposure to fuel and its 
>> reaction products, are not the same as in general machine 
>> lubrication such as a Teletype machine. What is good for one 
>> may be not good for the other.
>>    More, on additives including detergents at:
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_additive 
>> <https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Oil_additive>>
>>
>>    Still more at:
>> <https://itstillruns.com/synthetic-blend-oil-benefits-6962057.html 
>> <https://itstillruns.com/synthetic-blend-oil-benefits-6962057.html>>
>>     Is it possible the oil industry has set out to confuse you?
>>     If you do a search for industrial lubricants you will find 
>> a whole nother bunch of confusion.
>> On 9/13/2020 11:14 AM, E. wrote:
>> *
>>> *My motorcycle (sports bike) requires detergent… found in 
>>> most racing synthetics, I believe ;o .
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *
>>> *
>>>> *On Sep 13, 2020, at 11:52 am, <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:dave.g4ugm at gmail.com>> <dave.g4ugm at gmail.com 
>>>> <mailto:dave.g4ugm at gmail.com>> wrote:
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *
>>>> *Wayne,
>>>> *
>>>> *I believe that most Motorcycle Oil is detergent free. In 
>>>> most Motorcycles the gearbox, clutch and engine run in the 
>>>> same oil, and apparently detergent based oils don’t work 
>>>> well in this situation
>>>> *
>>>> *Dave
>>>> *
>>>> *G4UGM
>>>> *
>>>> * From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>>>> <mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net> 
>>>> <greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net 
>>>> <mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net>> On Behalf Of WAYNE
>>>> *
>>>> *Sent: 13 September 2020 17:30
>>>> *
>>>> *To: Jeffrey Angus <jdangus at att.net 
>>>> <mailto:jdangus at att.net>>; greenkeys at mailman.qth.net 
>>>> <mailto:greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
>>>> *
>>>> *Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] WD-40
>>>> *
>>>> * Jeff,
>>>> *
>>>> * It sure is clean!  You will have to lube everything that 
>>>> moves.
>>>> *
>>>> * Some guys are using 10W30 synthetic oil.  Regular 10W30 
>>>> oil works fine.  10W non-detergent is good if you can find some.
>>>> *
>>>> * You may have to lube more often.  Of course Teletype oil 
>>>> is the best.
>>>> *
>>>> * Someone on the list volunteered to gift some if a suitable 
>>>> bottle was sent to him.  Maybe their was a charge.  He had a 
>>>> 5 gallon can or the like of TTY 88970 oil.
>>>> *
>>>> * 73,
>>>> *
>>>> * Wayne
>>>> *
>>>> *KB1FDW
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