[GreenKeys] Stunt Box Corrected, Restoring Missing Characters

Nick England navy.radio at gmail.com
Mon Dec 2 16:59:08 EST 2019


Hi Paul - they are type "pallets"
The spring is 157238 - yep, one spring per pallet
Paul Cembura (RTTY Electronics) should be able to help out

Info from http://www.navy-radio.com/manuals/tty/1149B-6705.pdf
Note 26: (Figure 51) The old and new style type boxes may be
identified by the depth of the Pallet Box Front Plate
(new style being shallower). The old style pallets cannot
be used in the new style type boxes. New style
pallets can be used in either new or old style type
boxes. The old style 150077 Pallet Spring is no longer
available and is replaced by a new style 157238 Pallet
Spring. Only the new style spring can be used universally
with either the new or old style typepallets and
typeboxes. However, the old style springs can be used
with the new style pallets in an old style type box.
The old and new style pallets may be identified by the
length of the shank from the rear of the pallet head to
the far end of the elongated hole. (The old style being
the longer- See Figures 50 and 51).

Nick England K4NYW
www.navy-radio.com


On Mon, Dec 2, 2019 at 2:52 PM ad7i <ad7i at ad7i.net> wrote:

> Greetings Greenkeyers --
>
> A big *Thank You* to Jerry Murphy, Nick England and others who provided
> insight and guidance on the undesired operation of my 28 RO due the the
> stunt box "helping" on certain character sequences, and how to correct
> those problems.
>
> Given that my 28 RO seems to have been cobbled together from parts, it may
> have been that some of my stunt box features were of particular value and
> utility for that prior application.  Yet, for my use of this 28 RO the
> characters #, " and & had special meaning via the stunt box that caused
> extra line feeds, vertical tabs and horizontal tabs.  It seems that each of
> those characters occasionally appear in the ITTY feed.  I've now defeated
> those operations by wiring-up the pawls on the associated stunt box slots.
> Unwanted operations solved.
>
> Next, as TTY newbie, I wondered why, with those offending pawls now
> defeated, that I wasn't able to print #, " and &.  Of course you know the
> answer but it took me about 20 minutes to figure it you.  Yes, eventually I
> figured out that #, " and & were not present in my type box.
>
> I see from this document
> http://www.navy-radio.com/manuals/tty/typebox-code.pdf on Nick's website
> that it looks like I need the following type pieces to add to my type box
> (what's the correct term for these things that get whacked against the
> ribbon to make a printed character?):
>
> p/n  157638 typepiece " double-quote
> p/n  157659 typeiece # pound sign
> p/n  157639 typepiece & ampersand
>
> Adding type pieces to the typebox brings up the question of springs for
> the type pieces.  Do I need a spring for each additional type piece?  Does
> anyone have the part number for that spring?
>
> Another question I have is regarding slashed zeros.  Again I see from the
> typebox-code.pdf file that the part number for the slashed zero is:
>
> p/n  157635 typepiece slashed zero
>
> With respect to the slashed zero, my 28 RO does not have a slashed zero;
> it's simply a conventional zero, a little skinnier than a capital O.  My 28
> RO appears to have originally been a Bell System device (or at least the
> typing unit was originally a Bell System device based on the model number
> of the typing unit).  I also know that my Bell System 15 does not have a
> slashed zero.  Did the military version of the 28 commonly make use of a
> conventional zero or a slashed zero?  Were there other categories of users
> that also had slashed zeros on their TTYs instead of conventional zeros?
>
> Thanks again to everyone on this list for your help.
>
> Paul Newland, ad7i
>
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