[GreenKeys] CRLF or not CRLF?

[Jeff Stai]

Let's keep our Jeffs straight shall we? :) :)

Let's put one thing to rest: ASCII et al does not happen in the RTTY
Roundup, or if it does, it's because some sub group decides to show up
there. But I've never seen it. So to say you can do ASCII with your ASCII
machine and have fun is a red herring. (Those other modes were listed at
the origin of the contest pre-ARRL and no one has bothered to remove them.)

We could also go down a rat hole on input devices. I really don't know how
you would differentiate the laptop keyboard I am typing on now from a
mechanical TTY: both take the motion of my typing and translate it to
electrical impulses. But we all know it when we see it.

I'm going to let everyone weigh in for a while and then try to craft a
single paragraph that includes as many machines as possible, and makes it
clear that using an electronic display etc. is not in the spirit.

The goals are to keep it in the spirit, and to maximize the number who can
participate, because more participation is more fun, and make for more fun
stories Monday morning on how you got it all working. ;)

Carry on! 73 jeff wk6i


On Sat, Jul 29, 2017 at 7:28 PM, David Tumey <davetumey at yahoo.com> wrote:

> Jeff,
>
> Why not require that the Terminal Unit you describe use Vacuum Tubes only,
> no solid state devices, no fancy transistors, etc.
>
> In my mind this all seemed so simple:  You are either using a Teletype to
> send/receive RTTY or you are not.  I don't see how using a KAM or MFJ (Like
> I do) or HAL ST-8000A, etc. makes any difference.
>
> --dave
> W5DT
>
>
> ------------------------------
> *From:* Jeffrey Angus <jdangus at att.net>
> *To:* Jeff Stai <wk6i.jeff at gmail.com>
> *Cc:* greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> *Sent:* Saturday, July 29, 2017 3:29 PM
> *Subject:* Re: [GreenKeys] CRLF or not CRLF?
>
> On 7/29/17 1:40 PM, Jeff Stai wrote:
> > Nothing is disqualified yet because the rule has not yet been
> > officially written.
> > You guys can help with that. ;) I think focussing on the UI (printer
> > and keyboard)
> > would be the right direction.
> Just my opinion, but if you're going to have a special "machine" only
> category,
> then it should mean exactly that.
>
> Radio <-> Terminal Unit <-> Mechanical TTY machine.
> And by terminal unit, I mean a modem, no data processing.
> Sorry folks, this means no using a Kantronics KAM with a model 33 ASR.
>
> I haven't read the ARRL RTTY Roundup rules lately, so I can't say with
> certainty
> that it is limited to 60 WPM Baudot, so folks with a model 33 might be
> able to
> participate with ASCII at 110 baud.
> <http://www.arrl.org/files/file/Contest%20Rules%20PDFs/
> 2017/2017%20RTTY%20Roundup.pdf>
> I just read the rules:
> (Baudot RTTY, ASCII, AMTOR, PSK31 and Packet—attended operation only)
>
> I you insist on having "macros" (as they are now referred to) I would
> also assume
> these are limited to paper tape, not something like Fldigi running in
> parallel on
> the loop.
>
> Oh, and of course, extra point for working machine to machine. ;-)
>
> Jeff
>
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>
>
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