[GreenKeys] Model 35ASR TD Motor Woes
Richard Knoppow
1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com
Sat Aug 5 18:58:14 EDT 2017
A google search for "growler" will produce a lot of hits such as:
https://books.google.com/books?id=tSgDAAAAMBAJ&lpg=PA100&ots=znmu5rH1z0&dq=armature+tester+how+to+make&pg=PA100&hl=en#v=onepage&q=armature%20tester%20how%20to%20make&f=false
On 8/5/2017 3:41 PM, Pete Lancashire wrote:
> If you suspect the motor, it can be a shorted winding.
>
> Cap goes bad, causes motor to run hot, damages the motors insulation
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> On Sat, Aug 5, 2017 at 3:27 PM, Justin Scott <tty at impakt.net
> <mailto:tty at impakt.net>> wrote:
>
> Aha... So, I pulled another book off the shelf, which has a
> different set of prints in it...
>
> W-HOGTC-C16 (specific to TWX 35 ASR, which I have) specifically
> calls out capacitor 192019 in figure 1603, and motor 192120 in
> figure 1605. These are exactly what I have.
>
> So - either the motor got damaged in the extreme heat of the
> original cap failing, or it just runs this hot regardless of what
> the dataplate on the motor says. Probably the former. It does seem
> to run at about 230-235F in the hot spots now. Was it always that
> way? I don't know. Is my replacement cap bad? I'll find out soon
> enough by testing it.
>
> Thanks for helping, all.
>
> cheers,
> dj
> N7XDJ
>
> Justin Scott(tty) wrote:
> > Indeed, they are- which is why I need to know what Note 13 is
> supposed to say on that WD!
> >
> > I really have no way to know if the cap was original to the
> machine, replaced, replaced correctly, or what. I just replaced it
> with the same rating as the one that puffed up. I had noticed that
> the area above the TD unit was warm, but never noticed how warm. We
> know these machines can put off some heat, and being my first and
> probably only-ever 35 ASR, I have nothing to judge it against.
> >
> > The only other cap I have on hand is a dual unit for my AC
> Compressor and fan, but the fan side is 7.5 MFD, not going to try
> that. Grabbing a 4 MFD on Monday is an option, but that will cost
> about $15 or so. A lot to spend on a part I'll likely have no other
> use for, which may or may not make it run cooler.
> >
> > cheers,
> > dj
> > N7XDJ
> >
> > Jeffrey Angus(jdangus) wrote:
> > > On 8/5/17 1:16 PM, Justin Scott wrote:
> > > >This is in regards to "C1", the capacitor for the TD motor-
> -C3 calls out
> > > >two
> > > >C1's, one at 3 MFD and another at 4 MFD - seems trivial, I
> know, but
> > > >considering
> > > >this is a run capacitor for an AC motor, a little difference in
> > > >capacitance can
> > > >result in a lot of heat (but that much difference? I suspect
> not!)
> > > Actually, that IS a big difference. Either 25 or 33% depending
> on which
> > > way you're
> > > going.
> > >
> > > Motor Run capacitor values are critical.
> > >
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