[GreenKeys] GreenKeys Digest, Vol 148, Issue 14
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Wed May 18 10:24:05 EDT 2016
Nick I requested 1 case of paper a few weeks ago. Rich k8pjq .I have your space number and will be there Thursday for set up.
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> 1. Free TTY paper at Dayton hamfest (Nick England)
> 2. Re: Free TTY paper at Dayton hamfest (Steve Garrison)
> 3. Re: Armed Forces RTTY Test reminder & schedule (w8au at sssnet.com)
> 4. Re: Couple Teletype Presentation Pictures (w8au at sssnet.com)
> 5. Re: Couple Teletype Presentation Pictures (w8au at sssnet.com)
> 6. Re: Couple Teletype Presentation Pictures (Jeffrey D Angus)
> 7. Re: Couple Teletype Presentation Pictures (Jim Haynes)
> 8. Re: Couple Teletype Presentation Pictures (Jim Haynes)
> 9. Teletype colors (Pete Lancashire)
> 10. Re: Armed Forces RTTY Test reminder & schedule (Andy Williams
> (Ron Boltz)
> 11. Wanted M28 60 WPM gear set (N4BE_Jim at yahoo.com)
> 12. any missing USB-tty adapter orders? (epvgk at limpoc.com)
> 13. Re: any missing USB-tty adapter orders? (Steve Garrison)
> 14. Re: any missing USB-tty adapter orders? (epvgk at limpoc.com)
> 15. Re: any missing USB-tty adapter orders? (Lester Veenstra)
> 16. Re: any missing USB-tty adapter orders? (Jim Backus)
> 17. Re: any missing USB-tty adapter orders? (COURYHOUSE at aol.com)
> 18. Re: any missing USB-tty adapter orders? (Lester Veenstra)
> 19. Re: any missing USB-tty adapter orders? (Paul Birkel)
> 20. Re: any missing USB-tty adapter orders? (Cory Heisterkamp)
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> 1. Free TTY paper at Dayton hamfest (Nick England)
> 2. Re: Free TTY paper at Dayton hamfest (Steve Garrison)
> 3. Re: Armed Forces RTTY Test reminder & schedule (w8au at sssnet.com)
> 4. Re: Couple Teletype Presentation Pictures (w8au at sssnet.com)
> 5. Re: Couple Teletype Presentation Pictures (w8au at sssnet.com)
> 6. Re: Couple Teletype Presentation Pictures (Jeffrey D Angus)
> 7. Re: Couple Teletype Presentation Pictures (Jim Haynes)
> 8. Re: Couple Teletype Presentation Pictures (Jim Haynes)
> 9. Teletype colors (Pete Lancashire)
> 10. Re: Armed Forces RTTY Test reminder & schedule (Andy Williams
> (Ron Boltz)
> 11. Wanted M28 60 WPM gear set (N4BE_Jim at yahoo.com)
> 12. any missing USB-tty adapter orders? (epvgk at limpoc.com)
> 13. Re: any missing USB-tty adapter orders? (Steve Garrison)
> 14. Re: any missing USB-tty adapter orders? (epvgk at limpoc.com)
> 15. Re: any missing USB-tty adapter orders? (Lester Veenstra)
> 16. Re: any missing USB-tty adapter orders? (Jim Backus)
> 17. Re: any missing USB-tty adapter orders? (COURYHOUSE at aol.com)
> 18. Re: any missing USB-tty adapter orders? (Lester Veenstra)
> 19. Re: any missing USB-tty adapter orders? (Paul Birkel)
> 20. Re: any missing USB-tty adapter orders? (Cory Heisterkamp)
> 21. Loop supplies (Ralph Mowery)
> 22. Re: Loop supplies (epvgk at limpoc.com)
> 23. Fw: Loop supplies (JC White)
> 24. Re: Loop supplies (Ralph Mowery)
> 25. Fw: Loop supplies (JC White)
> 26. Re: Couple Teletype Presentation Pictures (Howard Weeks)
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> Message: 1
> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 14:35:24 -0400
> From: Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com>
> To: Greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Free TTY paper at Dayton hamfest
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> I have the following transfers planned so far
>
> Bill Strangfeld - 1 case at Cincinnati
> Jim Hammock - 2 cases at Dayton
> Jim Taylor - 2 cases at Dayton
> Kevin Dewitt - 1 case at Dayton
>
> If I forgot anyone, or you'd like a case of free TTY paper, please let me
> know
> (2 rolls, white, 2-ply, carbonless copy).
>
> If there is room I'll take along a couple of extra cases, hoping that I'll
> run across some non-greenkeys TTY fans.
>
> cheers,
> Nick K4NYW
> <http://www.navy-radio.com>
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> Message: 2
> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 14:49:13 -0400
> From: Steve Garrison <steve.n4tty at gmail.com>
> To: Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com>
> Cc: Greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Free TTY paper at Dayton hamfest
> Message-ID: <E2E34E46-9416-4F8E-9B05-4239C6500FF0 at gmail.com>
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> Don't forget to save some for your visit in November, or if Gene and I can visit before then!
>
> Steve G./N4TTY
> Sent from my iPhone
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>> On May 16, 2016, at 14:35, Nick England <navy.radio at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> I have the following transfers planned so far
>>
>> Bill Strangfeld - 1 case at Cincinnati
>> Jim Hammock - 2 cases at Dayton
>> Jim Taylor - 2 cases at Dayton
>> Kevin Dewitt - 1 case at Dayton
>>
>> If I forgot anyone, or you'd like a case of free TTY paper, please let me know
>> (2 rolls, white, 2-ply, carbonless copy).
>>
>> If there is room I'll take along a couple of extra cases, hoping that I'll run across some non-greenkeys TTY fans.
>>
>> cheers,
>> Nick K4NYW
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> Message: 3
> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 15:25:30 -0400
> From: w8au at sssnet.com
> To: GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Armed Forces RTTY Test reminder & schedule
> Message-ID: <mailman.34494.1463543488.10833.greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
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> At 10:28 AM 5/15/2016, Andy Williams wrote:
>> Did anyone copy the Secretary of Defense message? I never heard the
>> broadcast message at any of the scheduled times/frequencies/digital
>> modes here in North Texas. I briefly heard WUG-2 on USB during the
>> day. NIIW, USS Midway, was 59 on 14,441.5 kHz USB at 0300Z.
>
> Sorry to know that RTTY may have been missed, but we at NWVC were
> "the last of the Mohicans" with
> our SECDEF message on CW/25 wpm (tradition, OM..;-)) simultaneously
> on 4007/6913. Could have had it
> additionally on 13974.5 but it wasn't listed in the promo.
>
> I am a TTY enthusiast but want the CW gang to have some reason for
> listening....
>
> 73,
> Perry
>
>
>
>
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> Message: 4
> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 16:16:52 -0400
> From: w8au at sssnet.com
> To: Jeffrey D Angus <jdangus at att.net>,greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Couple Teletype Presentation Pictures
> Message-ID: <mailman.34495.1463543488.10833.greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
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> At 11:10 AM 5/16/2016, Jeffrey D Angus wrote:
>>> On 5/16/2016 9:37 AM, Nick England wrote:
>>> FWIW - The Navy was installing M28 equipment on new ships at least
>>> as late as 1987.
>> Pffffft, that's only because they finally ran out of Model 15s.
>
> Hey Jeff....not quite....
>
> They may have stopped installing mod 15's in the mid-fifties. I
> bought a truck load
> of NIB TT-39s... (mod 15 s/r) back in the late sixties. Shipping
> crates were stamped
> 1954 and never issued. All had 45 baud gears. It was fun putting those
> machines together and hauling brand new machines to hamfests.
>
> Plus my first ship in 1959 had no 15's...just M28s
>
> Perry w8au
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> Message: 5
> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 16:33:57 -0400
> From: w8au at sssnet.com
> To: Greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Couple Teletype Presentation Pictures
> Message-ID: <mailman.34496.1463543488.10833.greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
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> At 02:10 PM 5/16/2016, Nick England wrote:
> The US Navy finally abandoned ALL CAPS maybe 2
> years ago. An article in the Wall Street Journal
> on the subject had a drawing of a MITE based on a photo on my web page.
>
> Yes - the story was that today's kids are used to
> texting and capital letters are
> "screaming!" They don't want to chase the
> kiddies away from the recruiting stations...
> Yikes.... and the move to blue/white digital
> BDUs and boots (on a steel deck?) in place ot
> the more practical blue chambray shirts/ bell
> bottom dungarees or even the dickies of ten years
> ago was another kid fashion thing...
>
> What next? :-D
>
> Perry w8au
>
>
>
>
>> <http://www.navy-radio.com/tty/ksr/ugc41-01.JPG>http://www.navy-radio.com/tty/ksr/ugc41-01.JPG
>> http://www.navy-radio.com/tty/ksr/ugc41-wsj-01.jpg
>> ?
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> Message: 6
> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 16:41:43 -0500
> From: Jeffrey D Angus <jdangus at att.net>
> To: w8au at sssnet.com, "greenkeys at mailman.qth.net"
> <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Couple Teletype Presentation Pictures
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>> On 5/16/2016 3:16 PM, w8au at sssnet.com wrote:
>> At 11:10 AM 5/16/2016, Jeffrey D Angus wrote:
>>> Pffffft, that's only because they finally ran out of Model 15s.
>> Hey Jeff....not quite....
> Y'all KNOW I was kidding right?
>
>
>
> --
> Jeff-1.0
> wa6fwi
> http://www.foxsmercantile.com
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> Message: 7
> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 16:53:05 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Jim Haynes <jhhaynes at earthlink.net>
> To: Paul Birkel <pbirkel at gmail.com>
> Cc: "'Jones, Douglas W'" <douglas-w-jones at uiowa.edu>,
> greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Couple Teletype Presentation Pictures
> Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.20.1605161652070.1690 at localhost>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=US-ASCII; format=flowed
>
>> On Mon, 16 May 2016, Paul Birkel wrote:
>>
>> Is that the reason that we still have military message formats (e.g., USMTF)
>> in which SCREAMING // CAPS // IS THE STYLE // STILL -- blame it on 5-level
>> code equipment in-use?
>>
> I posted something just recently from a Weather Service site to the
> effect that they are going to quit using all caps in weather messages.
> But yes, the legacy of Teletype is the reason.
>
>
>
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> Message: 8
> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 21:08:15 -0500 (CDT)
> From: Jim Haynes <jhhaynes at earthlink.net>
> To: w8au at sssnet.com
> Cc: Jeffrey D Angus <jdangus at att.net>, greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Couple Teletype Presentation Pictures
> Message-ID: <alpine.LFD.2.20.1605162107110.2206 at localhost>
> Content-Type: text/plain; format=flowed; charset=US-ASCII
>
> The M15 had some definite drawbacks for shipboard use - that heavy
> type basket I'm told could be slung around as the ship pitched and
> rolled. Which is probably why the entire production of Model 28s
> early on went to the military; none were available for civilian use
> until later.
>
>
>
> ------------------------------
>
> Message: 9
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 05:45:20 -0700
> From: Pete Lancashire <pete at petelancashire.com>
> To: greenkeys <GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Teletype colors
> Message-ID:
> <CAA-F0u8xAM8BFwkz4n-74CtT8gXaevuS_rDYV65uO2brdECb+g at mail.gmail.com>
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> Does anyone have the color specs for
>
> Charcoal Gray
> Dark Covert Gray
> Light Gray
> Light Olive Gray
> Gray Green
>
> Something along the lines of Pantone(r) or CMYK or ??
>
> -pete
>
>
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>
> Message: 10
> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 15:42:01 -0400
> From: "Ron Boltz" <rl.boltz at mhsdesign.com>
> To: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Armed Forces RTTY Test reminder & schedule
> (Andy Williams
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Never heard the RTTY this year. Did well other years but heard nothing on
> Saturday. I only heard one USB voice station this year and that very
> faintly
>
>
>
> Ron Boltz
>
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> Message: 11
> Date: Mon, 16 May 2016 22:26:00 -0400
> From: "N4BE_Jim at yahoo.com" <N4BE_Jim at Yahoo.com>
> To: GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Wanted M28 60 WPM gear set
> Message-ID: <39664C33-F9F3-4BA1-90AE-05ACD181A3F4 at Yahoo.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> Will purchase, or optionally trade a 67 WPM gear set I have for your 60 WPM gear set. Even better, how about selling a "gear shift" modification kit?
>
> Jim N4BE
>
> Sent from my iPad
>
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> Message: 12
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 10:34:03 -0700
> From: epvgk at limpoc.com
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [GreenKeys] any missing USB-tty adapter orders?
> Message-ID: <20160517173403.GA6019 at limpoc.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
> Hi --
>
> Just wanted to check whether anyone who ordered a cl adapter hasn't gotten
> it yet. Haven't heard any reports of lost ones but I don't want anyone
> sitting around waiting two weeks for something that should take 3 days. :)
>
> btw 69 of them have gone out so far - who knew!
>
> eric
>
>
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> Message: 13
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 14:21:08 -0400
> From: Steve Garrison <steve.n4tty at gmail.com>
> To: epvgk at limpoc.com
> Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] any missing USB-tty adapter orders?
> Message-ID: <A875EB57-F05C-44D5-B406-2FD106DA8E46 at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
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> Any left that are waiting to go to a new home?
>
> Steve G./N4TTY
> Sent from my iPhone
>
>> On May 17, 2016, at 13:34, epvgk at limpoc.com wrote:
>>
>> Hi --
>>
>> Just wanted to check whether anyone who ordered a cl adapter hasn't gotten
>> it yet. Haven't heard any reports of lost ones but I don't want anyone
>> sitting around waiting two weeks for something that should take 3 days. :)
>>
>> btw 69 of them have gone out so far - who knew!
>>
>> eric
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> Message: 14
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 11:54:23 -0700
> From: epvgk at limpoc.com
> To: Steve Garrison <steve.n4tty at gmail.com>
> Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] any missing USB-tty adapter orders?
> Message-ID: <20160517185423.GB29726 at limpoc.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 02:21:08PM -0400, Steve Garrison wrote:
>> Any left that are waiting to go to a new home?
>
> There's about 10 left!
>
> eric
>
>
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> Message: 15
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 16:15:35 -0400
> From: "Lester Veenstra" <m0ycm at veenstras.com>
> To: <epvgk at limpoc.com>, <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] any missing USB-tty adapter orders?
> Message-ID: <059501d1b078$e4564c40$ad02e4c0$@com>
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> Who knew? Well, all of us, who planned to do something similar but "never
> got around to actually doing it!"
> Well done
> Les
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: GreenKeys [mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> epvgk at limpoc.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 1:34 PM
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [GreenKeys] any missing USB-tty adapter orders?
>
> Hi --
>
> Just wanted to check whether anyone who ordered a cl adapter hasn't gotten
> it yet. Haven't heard any reports of lost ones but I don't want anyone
> sitting around waiting two weeks for something that should take 3 days. :)
>
> btw 69 of them have gone out so far - who knew!
>
> eric
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> Message: 16
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 22:17:05 +0100
> From: Jim Backus <j.backus at jita.demon.co.uk>
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] any missing USB-tty adapter orders?
> Message-ID: <76416cdc-d338-f0e6-9169-cf6ea5405e3a at jita.demon.co.uk>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=windows-1252; format=flowed
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> Hi
>
> Mine haven't arrived yet, unfortunately the USPS tracking doesn't work
> for most overseas destinations. I'll post here when they arrive.
>
> Jim
>
>> On 17/05/2016 18:34, epvgk at limpoc.com wrote:
>> Hi --
>>
>> Just wanted to check whether anyone who ordered a cl adapter hasn't gotten
>> it yet. Haven't heard any reports of lost ones but I don't want anyone
>> sitting around waiting two weeks for something that should take 3 days. :)
>>
>> btw 69 of them have gone out so far - who knew!
>>
>> eric
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> Message: 17
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 17:36:03 -0400
> From: COURYHOUSE at aol.com
> To: m0ycm at veenstras.com, epvgk at limpoc.com, greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] any missing USB-tty adapter orders?
> Message-ID: <649b7a.696cda4b.446ce8c3 at aol.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> what we need now is the one board 60 mil voltage source small
> and cheap! assembled...
>
> seriously will all the stuff I need to do ion a days and nights time I
> really do not have that much time to build things,....
>
> Eric's boards were an answer to a long uttered prayer!
>
> the next thing that would be cool is one with wireless network
> interface on it and sms? well maybe at least the wireless network.
>
> for 80 percent of what I am doing these usb boards with the push
> button to type message fill the bill.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/17/2016 2:27:10 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> m0ycm at veenstras.com writes:
>
> Who knew? Well, all of us, who planned to do something similar but
> "never
> got around to actually doing it!"
> Well done
> Les
>
> Lester B Veenstra M?YCM K1YCM W8YCM
> lester at veenstras.com
>
> Physical and US Postal Addresses
> 5 Shrine Club Drive (Physical)
> 452 Stable Ln (RFD USPS Mail)
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>
>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: GreenKeys [mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> epvgk at limpoc.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 1:34 PM
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [GreenKeys] any missing USB-tty adapter orders?
>
> Hi --
>
> Just wanted to check whether anyone who ordered a cl adapter hasn't gotten
> it yet. Haven't heard any reports of lost ones but I don't want anyone
> sitting around waiting two weeks for something that should take 3 days. :)
>
> btw 69 of them have gone out so far - who knew!
>
> eric
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> Message: 18
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 18:14:15 -0400
> From: "Lester Veenstra" <m0ycm at veenstras.com>
> To: <COURYHOUSE at aol.com>, <epvgk at limpoc.com>,
> <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] any missing USB-tty adapter orders?
> Message-ID: <05c901d1b089$7983e470$6c8bad50$@com>
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>
> This could be done if someone as a stash of low cost variable ww resistors
> of about 1.5 K Ohms and 12.5 watts capacity.
>
>
>
> Lester B Veenstra M?YCM K1YCM W8YCM
>
> <mailto:lester at veenstras.com> lester at veenstras.com
>
>
>
> Physical and US Postal Addresses
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>
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>
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>
>
>
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>
> From: COURYHOUSE at aol.com [mailto:COURYHOUSE at aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:36 PM
> To: m0ycm at veenstras.com; epvgk at limpoc.com; greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] any missing USB-tty adapter orders?
>
>
>
> what we need now is the one board 60 mil voltage source small
> and cheap! assembled...
>
>
>
> seriously will all the stuff I need to do ion a days and nights time I
> really do not have that much time to build things,....
>
>
>
> Eric's boards were an answer to a long uttered prayer!
>
>
>
> the next thing that would be cool is one with wireless network interface
> on it and sms? well maybe at least the wireless network.
>
>
>
> for 80 percent of what I am doing these usb boards with the push
> button to type message fill the bill.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/17/2016 2:27:10 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> m0ycm at veenstras.com writes:
>
> Who knew? Well, all of us, who planned to do something similar but "never
> got around to actually doing it!"
> Well done
> Les
>
> Lester B Veenstra M?YCM K1YCM W8YCM
> lester at veenstras.com
>
> Physical and US Postal Addresses
> 5 Shrine Club Drive (Physical)
> 452 Stable Ln (RFD USPS Mail)
> Keyser WV 26726
> GPS: 39.336826 N 78.982287 W (Google)
> GPS: 39.33682 N 78.9823741 W (GPSDO)
>
>
> Telephones:
> Home: +1-304-289-6057
> US cell +1-304-790-9192
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>
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: GreenKeys [mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> epvgk at limpoc.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 1:34 PM
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [GreenKeys] any missing USB-tty adapter orders?
>
> Hi --
>
> Just wanted to check whether anyone who ordered a cl adapter hasn't gotten
> it yet. Haven't heard any reports of lost ones but I don't want anyone
> sitting around waiting two weeks for something that should take 3 days. :)
>
> btw 69 of them have gone out so far - who knew!
>
> eric
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> Message: 19
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 18:37:49 -0400
> From: "Paul Birkel" <pbirkel at gmail.com>
> To: "'Lester Veenstra'" <m0ycm at veenstras.com>, <COURYHOUSE at aol.com>,
> <epvgk at limpoc.com>, <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] any missing USB-tty adapter orders?
> Message-ID: <[email protected]>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="iso-8859-1"
>
> How would that work? Let?s see that design :->!
>
>
>
> From: GreenKeys [mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> Lester Veenstra
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 6:14 PM
> To: COURYHOUSE at aol.com; epvgk at limpoc.com; greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] any missing USB-tty adapter orders?
>
>
>
> This could be done if someone as a stash of low cost variable ww resistors
> of about 1.5 K Ohms and 12.5 watts capacity.
>
>
>
> Lester B Veenstra M?YCM K1YCM W8YCM
>
> lester at veenstras.com
>
>
>
> Physical and US Postal Addresses
>
> 5 Shrine Club Drive (Physical)
>
> 452 Stable Ln (RFD USPS Mail)
>
> Keyser WV 26726
>
> GPS: 39.336826 N 78.982287 W (Google)
>
> GPS: 39.33682 N 78.9823741 W (GPSDO)
>
>
>
>
>
> Telephones:
>
> Home: +1-304-289-6057
>
> US cell +1-304-790-9192
>
> UK cell +44-(0)7849-248-749
>
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>
> Jamaica: +1-876-456-8898
>
>
>
> This e-mail and any documents attached hereto contain confidential or
> privileged information. The information is intended to be for use only by
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>
> From: COURYHOUSE at aol.com [mailto:COURYHOUSE at aol.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 5:36 PM
> To: m0ycm at veenstras.com; epvgk at limpoc.com; greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] any missing USB-tty adapter orders?
>
>
>
> what we need now is the one board 60 mil voltage source small
> and cheap! assembled...
>
>
>
> seriously will all the stuff I need to do ion a days and nights time I
> really do not have that much time to build things,....
>
>
>
> Eric's boards were an answer to a long uttered prayer!
>
>
>
> the next thing that would be cool is one with wireless network interface
> on it and sms? well maybe at least the wireless network.
>
>
>
> for 80 percent of what I am doing these usb boards with the push
> button to type message fill the bill.
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> In a message dated 5/17/2016 2:27:10 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
> m0ycm at veenstras.com writes:
>
> Who knew? Well, all of us, who planned to do something similar but "never
> got around to actually doing it!"
> Well done
> Les
>
> Lester B Veenstra M?YCM K1YCM W8YCM
> lester at veenstras.com
>
> Physical and US Postal Addresses
> 5 Shrine Club Drive (Physical)
> 452 Stable Ln (RFD USPS Mail)
> Keyser WV 26726
> GPS: 39.336826 N 78.982287 W (Google)
> GPS: 39.33682 N 78.9823741 W (GPSDO)
>
>
> Telephones:
> Home: +1-304-289-6057
> US cell +1-304-790-9192
> UK cell +44-(0)7849-248-749
> Guam Cell: +1-671-929-8141
> Jamaica: +1-876-456-8898
>
> This e-mail and any documents attached hereto contain confidential or
> privileged information. The information is intended to be for use only by
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> intended recipient or the person responsible for delivering the e-mail to
> the intended recipient, be aware that any disclosure, copying, distribution
> or use of the contents of this e-mail or any documents attached hereto is
> prohibited.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GreenKeys [mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> epvgk at limpoc.com
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 1:34 PM
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: [GreenKeys] any missing USB-tty adapter orders?
>
> Hi --
>
> Just wanted to check whether anyone who ordered a cl adapter hasn't gotten
> it yet. Haven't heard any reports of lost ones but I don't want anyone
> sitting around waiting two weeks for something that should take 3 days. :)
>
> btw 69 of them have gone out so far - who knew!
>
> eric
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> Message: 20
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 17:37:56 -0500
> From: Cory Heisterkamp <coryheisterkamp at gmail.com>
> To: Greenkeys BOARD <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] any missing USB-tty adapter orders?
> Message-ID: <E9E95A64-10B7-4AD5-9211-51BD721ACC1B at gmail.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> Back in 2013 I decided I'd raid the parts stash for a power resistor and adjustable rheostat, then ordered a Hammond plastic project box and 1/4" insulated jacks off ebay <$10. Grabbed a mA meter there as well ($3.95) and ordered transformer 237-1270-ND from Digikey for $9.95. It may not have the efficiency of a modern design but it's served me well since then. Assembly time was less than an hour including drilling. I say go for it Ed! -Cory
>
>
>
>> On May 17, 2016, at 4:36 PM, Ed Sharpe Archivist for SMECC via GreenKeys wrote:
>>
>> what we need now is the one board 60 mil voltage source small and cheap! assembled...
>>
>> seriously will all the stuff I need to do ion a days and nights time I really do not have that much time to build things,....
>>
>> Eric's boards were an answer to a long uttered prayer!
>>
>> the next thing that would be cool is one with wireless network interface on it and sms? well maybe at least the wireless network.
>>
>> for 80 percent of what I am doing these usb boards with the push button to type message fill the bill.
>>
>>
>>
>>
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> Message: 21
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 19:18:01 -0400
> From: "Ralph Mowery" <rmowery28146 at earthlink.net>
> To: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Loop supplies
> Message-ID: <002701d1b092$5b9aa3f0$12cfebd0$@net>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset="us-ascii"
>
> While I have not tried them, ebay has some modules from China that might
> just work for a local loop. Buy one of the modules which is just a circuit
> board and look around for a 24 volt wall wart DC supply. The modules are
> only about $ 2 to $ 6. Some of them can be adjusted for a constant current
> and should be able to put out about 20 volts for the 60 ma loop.
>
>
>
> I have played with a couple of just the voltage regulated supplies. If you
> need to measure the current, then a low cost ma meter or even one of the
> 'free' ones from harbor freight could be used.
>
>
>
> Here are some of the ebay links.
>
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/191015464867?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/191015464867?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNam
> e=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT> &ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
>
>
>
> http://www.ebay.com/itm/191015464867?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/191015464867?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNam
> e=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT> &ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
>
>
>
>
>
> I would like to have a much higher voltage, but should be ok to run around
> 20 to 24 volts on a local loop. You might even be able to get some of the
> modules to boost the 5 to 12 volt supplies to 30 volts or so. Sort of a
> design waste, but not very expensive either if you have some low voltage
> wall warts. Then all you need is a plastic box to put them in and maybe
> some phone jacks.
>
>
>
> I used a large empty pill bottle to put the computer to machine converter
> board in.
>
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> Message: 22
> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 16:48:50 -0700
> From: epvgk at limpoc.com
> To: Ralph Mowery <rmowery28146 at earthlink.net>
> Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Loop supplies
> Message-ID: <20160517234850.GA19640 at limpoc.com>
> Content-Type: text/plain; charset=us-ascii
>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 07:18:01PM -0400, Ralph Mowery wrote:
>> While I have not tried them, ebay has some modules from China that might
>> just work for a local loop. Buy one of the modules which is just a circuit
>> board and look around for a 24 volt wall wart DC supply. The modules are
>> only about $ 2 to $ 6. Some of them can be adjusted for a constant current
>> and should be able to put out about 20 volts for the 60 ma loop.
>>
>>
>
> You should be able to use one of those with my CL adapter board, but you'll need
> a small current limiting resistor as the board already puts 187 ohms total in
> series with the loop. (plus the dc resistance of the selector magnet coils, etc)
>
> eric
>
>>
>> I have played with a couple of just the voltage regulated supplies. If you
>> need to measure the current, then a low cost ma meter or even one of the
>> 'free' ones from harbor freight could be used.
>>
>>
>>
>> Here are some of the ebay links.
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/191015464867?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
>> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/191015464867?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNam
>> e=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT> &ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
>>
>>
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/191015464867?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
>> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/191015464867?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNam
>> e=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT> &ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> I would like to have a much higher voltage, but should be ok to run around
>> 20 to 24 volts on a local loop. You might even be able to get some of the
>> modules to boost the 5 to 12 volt supplies to 30 volts or so. Sort of a
>> design waste, but not very expensive either if you have some low voltage
>> wall warts. Then all you need is a plastic box to put them in and maybe
>> some phone jacks.
>>
>>
>>
>> I used a large empty pill bottle to put the computer to machine converter
>> board in.
>>
>>
>>
>
>> ______________________________________________________________
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> From: JC White <jcw1231 at pacbell.net>
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> Subject: [GreenKeys] Fw: Loop supplies
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> I have some concerns about using such a low voltage loop supply.? We are talking considerable inductance in the loop (the selector magnets) and the circuit time constant becomes such that it can take many milliseconds for the current to rise to the required 60 ma, which is why the "usual" recommended loop supply voltage is around (or above) 120 vdc (the higher the voltage, the faster the current can rise).? Check out pp 108 - 110 of the Tab Books RTTY Handbook for a discussion about this situation.? A fair constant current loop regulator is also shown, one in which the current can reach 90% of the 60 ma target within 2 milliseconds.? The cc circuit shown CAN function below 120 volts but the lower limit for it appears to be around 40 vdc (with the time constant due to magnet inductance being the major constraint).? I have seldom seem perfect copy from test tapes at this loop supply voltage.
>
> BTW, if one needs to run a loop driving more than a single magnet, it is important to have the added magnet(s) in parallel with, rather than in series with, the first magnet, since placing the magnets in series dramatically increase the circuit time constant and degrades machine copy.
> JohnWB6BLV
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> From: "epvgk at limpoc.com" <epvgk at limpoc.com>
> To: Ralph Mowery <rmowery28146 at earthlink.net>
> Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 4:48 PM
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Loop supplies
>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 07:18:01PM -0400, Ralph Mowery wrote:
>> While I have not tried them, ebay has some modules from China that might
>> just work for a local loop.? Buy one of the modules which is just a circuit
>> board and look around for a 24 volt wall wart DC supply.? The modules are
>> only about $ 2 to $ 6.? Some of them can be adjusted for a constant current
>> and should be able to put out about 20 volts for the 60 ma loop.
>>
>> ?
>
> You should be able to use one of those with my CL adapter board, but you'll need
> a small current limiting resistor as the board already puts 187 ohms total in
> series with the loop. (plus the dc resistance of the selector magnet coils, etc)
>
> eric
>
>>
>> I have played with a couple of just the voltage regulated supplies.? If you
>> need to measure the current, then a low cost ma meter or even one of the
>> 'free' ones from harbor freight could be used.
>>
>> ?
>>
>> Here are some of the ebay? links.
>>
>> ?
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/191015464867?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
>> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/191015464867?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNam
>> e=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT> &ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
>>
>> ?
>>
>> http://www.ebay.com/itm/191015464867?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649
>> <http://www.ebay.com/itm/191015464867?_trksid=p2060353.m1438.l2649&ssPageNam
>> e=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT> &ssPageName=STRK%3AMEBIDX%3AIT
>>
>> ?
>>
>> ?
>>
>> I would like to have a much higher voltage, but should be ok to run around
>> 20 to 24 volts on a local loop.? You might even be able to get some of the
>> modules to boost the 5 to 12 volt supplies to 30 volts or so.? Sort of a
>> design waste, but? not very expensive either if you have some low voltage
>> wall warts.? Then all? you need is a plastic box to put them in and maybe
>> some phone jacks.?
>>
>> ?
>>
>> I used a large empty pill bottle to put the computer to machine converter
>> board in.
>>
>> ?
>>
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> From: "Ralph Mowery" <rmowery28146 at earthlink.net>
> To: <epvgk at limpoc.com>
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> I did just order a couple of the boards from China so should know something
> in a few weeks. The boards are suppose to have an adjustment for the
> current along with the voltage so an external resistor will not be needed as
> if it was just a voltage board. It may not even work at all, but thought it
> may be worth a try for about $ 10.
>
> It was also mentioned in another post about using such a low voltage supply.
> I know about the dv/dt (rise time) of the current, but if fed by almost
> perfect waves from the converter it may stand a chance of working
> ,especially if the teletype uses the lower inductance of the holding coils.
> I would like to have close to 100 volts or more, but did not see any modules
> that would put out that kind of voltage and regulate the current for a few
> dollars. I will have to look around and see if there are any.
>
> De Ralph ku4pt
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: epvgk at limpoc.com [mailto:epvgk at limpoc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:49 PM
> To: Ralph Mowery
> Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Loop supplies
>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 07:18:01PM -0400, Ralph Mowery wrote:
>> While I have not tried them, ebay has some modules from China that
>> might just work for a local loop. Buy one of the modules which is
>> just a circuit board and look around for a 24 volt wall wart DC
>> supply. The modules are only about $ 2 to $ 6. Some of them can be
>> adjusted for a constant current and should be able to put out about 20
> volts for the 60 ma loop.
>>
>>
>
> You should be able to use one of those with my CL adapter board, but you'll
> need a small current limiting resistor as the board already puts 187 ohms
> total in series with the loop. (plus the dc resistance of the selector
> magnet coils, etc)
>
> eric
>
>>
>
>
>
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> Date: Wed, 18 May 2016 03:30:40 +0000 (UTC)
> From: JC White <jcw1231 at pacbell.net>
> To: "greenkeys at mailman.qth.net" <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Subject: [GreenKeys] Fw: Loop supplies
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> run several of the modules in series??
>
>
> ----- Forwarded Message -----
> From: Ralph Mowery <rmowery28146 at earthlink.net>
> To: epvgk at limpoc.com
> Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 8:27 PM
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Loop supplies
>
> I did just order a couple of the boards from China so should know something
> in a few weeks.? The boards are suppose to have an adjustment for the
> current along with the voltage so an external resistor will not be needed as
> if it was just a voltage board.? It may not even work at all, but thought it
> may be worth a try for about $ 10.?
>
> It was also mentioned in another post about using such a low voltage supply.
> I know about the dv/dt (rise time) of the current, but if fed by almost
> perfect waves from the converter it may stand a chance of working
> ,especially if the teletype uses the lower inductance of the holding coils.
> I would like to have close to 100 volts or more, but did not see any modules
> that would put out that kind of voltage and regulate the current for a few
> dollars.? I will have to look around and see if there are any.
>
> De Ralph ku4pt
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: epvgk at limpoc.com [mailto:epvgk at limpoc.com]
> Sent: Tuesday, May 17, 2016 7:49 PM
> To: Ralph Mowery
> Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Loop supplies
>
>> On Tue, May 17, 2016 at 07:18:01PM -0400, Ralph Mowery wrote:
>> While I have not tried them, ebay has some modules from China that
>> might just work for a local loop.? Buy one of the modules which is
>> just a circuit board and look around for a 24 volt wall wart DC
>> supply.? The modules are only about $ 2 to $ 6.? Some of them can be
>> adjusted for a constant current and should be able to put out about 20
> volts for the 60 ma loop.
>>
>> ?
>
> You should be able to use one of those with my CL adapter board, but you'll
> need a small current limiting resistor as the board already puts 187 ohms
> total in series with the loop. (plus the dc resistance of the selector
> magnet coils, etc)
>
> eric
>
>>
>
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> Date: Tue, 17 May 2016 23:51:16 -0400
> From: Howard Weeks <weeksh at att.net>
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> Radio on a horse!
>
> Howard K5JCP
>
>> On 5/16/2016 2:18 PM, Ed Sharpe Archivist for SMECC via GreenKeys wrote:
>> Doug- also called the pogo stick.... see link for more info!
>> http://www.radiomilitari.com/bc745.html
>> Ed# www.smecc.org <http://www.smecc.org>
>> In a message dated 5/16/2016 7:19:32 A.M. US Mountain Standard Time,
>> douglas-w-jones at uiowa.edu writes:
>>
>>> On May 16, 2016, at 1:17 AM, Mark J. Blair wrote:
>>>
>>> As anecdotal evidence, I'll present my AN/GRC-122B RTTY shelter:
>> Paperwork found in the shelter suggested that it had been installed
>> on a HMMWV in military service, before I got it and installed it on
>> my own HMMWV. So that, at least, puts 5-level RTTY hardware on the
>> back of a military truck at least as late as 1986.
>>
>> A related story: My father was in the signal corps in WWII.
>> Mostly, he was in combat support, repairing radios equipment and
>> sending things back to the front. Most of the repairs, he said,
>> consisted of washing the mud out of the equipment, drying it,
>> replacing the batteries and a quick test.
>>
>> One of the pieces of equipment he remembers with a degree of bemused
>> fondness was a "walkie talkie" that was originally designed as a
>> cavalry lance, the SCR-511. That is, it was designed to fit into
>> the lance socket on the stirrup of a cavalry horse and be held as a
>> lance was held. It was a good radio, but the Battle of the Bulge
>> featured no cavalry operations. So, lance sockets were fitted to
>> jeeps, an in some cases these things were hand carried into combat.
>>
>> Doug Jones
>> jones at cs.uiowa.edu
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