[GreenKeys] Ed Sharpe

PJ Bennett pj at pjbennett.com
Tue Dec 20 17:54:34 EST 2016 

Thanks Richard, I didn't notice the listinfo link.  Looks like it spells
things out well.

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-----Original Message-----
From: GreenKeys [mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
Richard Knoppow
Sent: Tuesday, December 20, 2016 4:19 PM
To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Ed Sharpe

    The purpose of the list is spelled out on its home page:
http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys
This is listed at the bottom of each post.
    I will leave a fuller answer to Gil but my observation after being a
member for quite a while is that it is not strictly moderated. The people
here have a very wide experience in industry and the military.
     I am a member of a couple of lists that are quite strictly moderated,
at least as far as requiring civil behavior and have left one list that was
over-moderated.  I am a co-administrator of two lists but seldom have to do
more than post a warning and that not often.
  I don't know what the problem is/was with Ed but suspect there is a back
story.
On 12/20/2016 1:42 PM, PJ Bennett wrote:
> Gil, I'm a relatively new list subscriber and it would help if I knew 
> what the expectations are for this list (maybe it was sent to me, but 
> I don't remember seeing it).
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> I have three model 33's and was interested in this list for help in 
> repairing and using them, along with helping others when I could 
> (Wayne, you have been great by the way!).  Just reading about how 
> others are fixing/maintaining their equipment has been a big help for me.
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> There has also been ample stories about TTY and RTTY equipment, which 
> I have found very interesting and has brought me into buying TU's and 
> other RTTY equipment to play around with.
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> However, I wasn't sure if this list was intended to be primarily a 
> support group for keeping old machines running, a story sharing group, 
> a buyers/sellers group, or something else.  Is there a "list rules" or 
> expectations document, or is this kind of just defined informally by 
> the group?
>

>
> I'm more curious than anything, but I also think that in light of what 
> happened to Ed# that it would be good to make sure those of us that 
> are fairly new (I think I've been on here for about a year) have a 
> clear idea of the expectations for our posts.
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> Thanks,
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> PJ
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> *PJ Bennett, BSEE*
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> *From:*GreenKeys [mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] *On Behalf 
> Of *Gil Smith
> *Sent:* Tuesday, December 20, 2016 12:30 AM
> *To:* aaa-greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> *Subject:* [GreenKeys] Ed Sharpe
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> I hate dealing with this stupid shit.  I have work to do, bills to 
> pay, and life is too frickin' short...
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> For years now, "many" greenkeys members have been complaining that Ed 
> Sharpe has been bogarting this forum.  I have had to intervene and try 
> to patch things up, to keep things running smoothly.  A couple of 
> years ago I put him on moderation to calm things down, and a few 
> months later let him wander free in the wild again, hoping he learned a
lesson.
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> A few weeks ago it came to a head again when someone called him out on 
> all his vague rambling posts.  He called my cell phone at 9:30 that 
> night to "talk about it."  I did not answer.  But I put him on moderation.
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> He had 138 posts in November, an absurd number of posts for any member.
>  Most were one-liner nonsense.
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> For several weeks, I have been quietly discarding 3/4 of his (now
> moderated) posts, but letting a few rational posts through.
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> He was today again on a rant with many posts (you did not see most of 
> them, since I have him moderated), and after not getting his way, he 
> called my cell phone at 10:30 tonight, and left a 3-minute message 
> about this tty shit in California.
>
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> That did it.  10:30?  Really?  I need to leave my cell phone on in 
> case my 86-yo mother has a problem, and I do not need to be woken up 
> by this silly nonsense.
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> Ed# has been deleted from greenkeys.  This is only the second time I 
> have taken such drastic measures -- years ago some joker would not 
> stop with personal-opinion political posts, and I deleted him.  This 
> makes two times in 20+years as moderator that I have asserted 
> greenkeys executive power.  I try to stay out of things -- I really 
> do.  But don't piss me off.
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> So, you can call me an ass, vote to have me replaced, or whatever, but 
> I have no more patience for this nonsense.
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> If this was a modern forum, everyone would be able to easily block 
> crap from specific individuals, and never see it.  But this is an 
> old-school email list, a "reflector" as some call it, and there are no
such controls.
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> I need to get some sleep.
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> gil
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> gil smith, AF7EZ
> greenkeys moderator
> gil at baudot.net <mailto:gil at baudot.net>
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