[GreenKeys] What is the RTTY standard for CR LF for transmission?

[Paul Heller]

Wayne's 2 cents is worth a lot more to me than 2 cents!! 

Paul
W2TTY

> On Apr 15, 2016, at 10:41 AM, teletypeparts at comcast.net wrote:
> 
> As I recall, the standard on Telex and TWX machines was CR, LF and an optional LTRS, Delete or Rubout. 
> 
> I have been on a few trouble calls where the operator used LF first and then CR and no LTRS or Delete.  
> 
> Its always good to include the LTRS or Delete in case of a slow carriage return time or dashpot bounce etc.  
> 
> No line should be so long that the Auto CR and LF is needed.  That function should only be needed with a failure of the CR and LF character or an extra long line.  
> 
> While we are on the Standard subject, I have watched a few YouTube videos lately with the paper and tape incorrectly loaded. 
> 
> On 32 and 33's paper always feeds from the bottom of the roll.  Tape from the top of the roll.  When placing a punched tape into the tape reader, the TR should be in FREE position.  It will install much easier that way.  
> 
> Thats my 2 cents worth today.  
> 
> 73,
> 
> Wayne 
> KB1FDW
> 
> 
> From: hwhall at compuserve.com
> To: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Sent: Friday, April 15, 2016 2:07:25 AM
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] What is the RTTY standard for CR LF for transmission?
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> I think there should be an option in the program to select the end-of-line characters combo. I recall reading a LONG discussion of this some years ago and it concluded there was no one perfect answer.  Some of the factors were that not all machines are the same & even when machines are the same they aren't all set up alike. Glass TTYers didn't care what was at the EOL, they generally automatically wrapped lines on the screen. Mechanical TTYers with auto-LF on CR set up didn't appreciate the wasted paper with a LF inserted at the EOL. Mechanical TTYers without auto-LF liked the LF in the EOL, of course. 
> 
> Wayne
> WB4OGM
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Ralph Mowery <rmowery28146 at earthlink.net>
> To: greenkeys <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Thu, Apr 14, 2016 9:10 pm
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] What is the RTTY standard for CR LF for transmission?
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> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Mike Willegal" <mike at willegal.net> To: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net> Sent: Thursday, April 14, 2016 1:25 PM Subject: [GreenKeys] What is the RTTY standard for CR LF for transmission? > I’m working on improving a vintage computer (Apple II) app for RTTY. > > There are a number of possibilities and I wondering if there is a > convention for CR/LF usage. > > Is it expected that there is a CR/LF at the end of each message? > Are there cases where CR/LF are sent before messages? > Which goes out first, the CR or LF? > > To stay compatable with the old machines it should be CR CR LF LTRS with out the spaces that I put in to make it clear. The two CRs are for radio circuits incase on is missed, then the LF comes and a LTRS or if the first character is a FIGS then that could be sent. The reason is that the mechanical machines need about 2 non printing characters so the carriage can get back to the left. The sequence should be sent to start with to make sure the machine starts off with a fresh line and at the end of the transmission so there will not be any over printing of the message due to static or other noise being received. ______________________________________________________________ GreenKeys mailing list Home: http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/greenkeys Help: http://mailman.qth.net/mmfaq.htm Post: mailto:GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net 2002-to-present greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/pipermail/greenkeys/ 1998-to-2001 greenkeys archive: http://mailman.qth.net/archive/greenkeys/greenkeys.html Randy Guttery's 2001-to-2009 GreenKeys Search Tool: http://comcents.com/tty/greenkeyssearch.html This list hosted by: http://www.qsl.net Please help support this email list: http://www.qsl.net/donate.html Message delivered to hwhall at compuserve.com
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