[GreenKeys] M15 How to disable unshift-on-space?

Ed Sharpe Archivist for SMECC via GreenKeys greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Sat Sep 19 02:12:41 EDT 2015


that  should have  said   from radio  KOY  not  KOT
 
 
In a message dated 9/18/2015 11:06:11 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
greenkeys at mailman.qth.net writes:

This  15 has a really nice  white ceramic  fuse holder in  it.  I have one 
other UPI unit that  was  from out of   state I have not  really looked hard 
at  so it  my have  the  screw in type too.  I stand  corrected on the   
KOT  UPI model 15... it too has  the screw in base  fuses  as  well....
as  thus... ( had a picture on the server!)
 

 
 
In a message dated 9/18/2015 10:42:52 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
1oldlens1 at ix.netcom.com writes:

I wish I had been paying more attention; I saw  Fusetrons for sale 
somewhere unexpected just recently.  I think it was  Home Depot.  There are still 
some homes with fuse boxes that use these.  I think the ordinances in Los 
Angeles require homes to have circuit breakers  and not fuses.  Its certainly so 
for rental units but I am not sure  about private homes.  In any case 
Fusetrons seem to still be around.  
I have seen other old electronic equipment with  conventional Edison screw 
base fuses.  Most later equipment uses  cartridge style fuses in clip fuse 
holders. I think even Radio Shack has  fuse clips. The fuse holders for screw 
base fuses are nothing more than  ceramic lamp holders.  Fusetrons also go 
in these but with an adaptor  to accept the special thread that keeps you 
from putting in the wrong sized  fuse.  The adaptors can't be removed without 
destroying them.   
If Teletype did not install fuses its possible UPI  did in order to protect 
the machine and perhaps also to avoid running afoul  of ordinances.  

On 9/18/2015 10:20 PM, Ed Sharpe Archivist for  SMECC via GreenKeys wrote:


adding this  to public   archive as here is my  value  for  the upi unit  
which I took home  to clean  lube and adj.
 
my other units have  anything  from  nothing  to  a   regular  looking  
fuse and holder that   looks  like   one  used inside a  radio.
 
as to the value  I am not there  right  now.but  the  UPI recent 15   ((HA  
You can buy  4  for 70 bucks?!?!?!?
 
here is a new listing  for my fusetron fuse by another   mfr...  someone 
may want to educate us  on  valuses   needed
 

 (http://www.zoro.com/i/G3449686/)  *   _Fuse,  3-2/10A, T, 125VAC, 
Screw-In, PK4_ (http://www.zoro.com/i/G3449686/) 
    *   $70.25   
    *   BUSSMANN   
    *   G3449686T-3-2/10  



In a message dated 9/18/2015 9:41:24 P.M. US Mountain Standard Time,  
_drlegendre at gmail.com_ (mailto:drlegendre at gmail.com)  writes:
 
Ed,  


Have had the fuses replaced with +what+ ?? ;-)


On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 11:14 PM, <_COURYHOUSE at aol.com_ 
(mailto:COURYHOUSE at aol.com) > wrote:


our  latest  UPI  ro 15  has the screw in  fuse!   all other 15s  we have 
had  the  fuses  replaced.
Ed#  _www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org/) 
 
 
 
 
In a message dated 9/18/2015 8:59:38 P.M. US Mountain Standard  Time, 
_drlegendre at gmail.com_ (mailto:drlegendre at gmail.com)   writes:



 
 
Wow, so the household fuse is correct - that's just  nuts! Maybe I'll pull 
it and bypass with a 1A slow-blow and maybe a  CIL to deal with inrush 
currents. The present arrangement just isn't  what I'd call proper 'protection'.. 
 


In other news, I think I've corrected the aberrant behavior.  And yes, it 
does seem like it's all down to that very fine clearance  between the cutout 
lever and the vertical extension of the SP  function lever. I added a few 
turns of solid metal foil tape to the  little dog-leg on the end of the cutout 
lever, to reduce the  clearance to nearly nil.. maybe 0.002 or so.


And the USOS is gone, at least for now. Obviously I have a lot  more to 
learn about this mechanism, but for now, I'm stunned that  such a tiny little 
gap could allow the unwanted behavior. My hunch  is that something else, 
somewhere, is either improperly adjusted,  improperly installed, or just plain 
worn. Very surprising, but  again, I have much to learn.


I will post a pic of the connector box in a few minutes. But  for now, the 
machine is behaving as I'd like... =)


On Fri, Sep 18, 2015 at 10:09 PM, Jim Haynes  <_jhhaynes at earthlink.net_ 
(mailto:jhhaynes at earthlink.net) >  wrote:

All  the ones I've seen use the screw-type household fuse, except  it's
an odd value like 6 1/4 amp slow-blow.  Remember that  the motor draws
much more starting current than running  current.  Also some installations
include a 120VDC power  supply, and there is often a convenience outlet
on the side of  the base where the repair guy can plug in a soldering
iron or a  light fixture.  Not that I'd want to be soldering on the  wiring
while it is plugged into the power line.

The bare  machine doesn't care about polarity.  Those which include  a
polar relay on the base do.  And there are some  variables like a motor
control relay that is controlled by  polarity.

Can you send a picture of the Bell System box you  are talking  about?









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