[GreenKeys] is this stuff any good?yes, no ? Kano's -, Kroil unruster

Sat Jun 6 21:21:12 EDT 2015

Holy crap!

I had the same experience when trying to mix-up a batch of the 'homebrew'
penetrant. We mixed equal parts of Power Steering Fluid and Acetone - and
i'll be damned, but they wouldn't go into solution. The two liquids at
there, like oil & water.

Have never been so surprised in my life.. since when doesn't acetone (a
nearly universal organic solvent) mix with what amounts to a 20W petroleum
oil? I didn't want to mention this, as I simply didn't know what to make of
it - I figured I must have grabbed the wrong bottle of something - so I
kept it to myself, lol.

But apparently I'm not the only one!

On Sat, Jun 6, 2015 at 10:58 AM, Scott Johnson <scottjohnson1 at cox.net>
wrote:

> Here's my method for stuck set screws:
>  Place a hex key, or Bristol (as appropriate) in the screw, grip it at the
> end with pliers, and apply a 50-100W soldering iron to the wrench, as close
> to the setscrew as you dare (don't burn or melt the knob), after a minute
> or
> so, apply gentle torque to the wrench, the screw should move.  This
> technique has worked for me every time I have used it.
> BTW, Dextron ATF is miscible in Acetone, you may have had type F, which I
> have never tried.
>
> Scott W7SVJ
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: GreenKeys [mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of
> Roy
> Morgan
> Sent: Saturday, June 06, 2015 8:43 AM
> To: GreenKeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] is this stuff any good?yes, no ? Kano's -, Kroil
> unruster
>
>
> On Jun 5, 2015, at 5:32 PM, Ed Sharpe Archivist for SMECC via GreenKeys
> <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net> wrote:
>
> > IS POWER STEERING FLUID  GOOD  FOR TTY LUBE?
>
> Absolutely not.  Power steering fluid is meant for completely different
> service.
>
> There have been reports of a penetrating fluid home made recipe with 50-50
> Automatic Transmission Fluid and Acetone.  I tried that once and the
> acetone
> and ATF did NOT mix or dissolve in each other.  It's quite possible that
> the
> original tests were done with an earlier type of ATF than what I had.
> Prior
> to that I had never run in to any liquid that acetone would not dissolve
> in.
>
> The original report appeared in the magazine Machinists Workshop (details
> below, from the antique tractor list, the members of which deal with really
> rusty stuff). The reported results show the ATF and Acetone mixture to be
> significantly better than any other product tested.  Mine did not work.
>
> By the way I did that test in an attempt to get the knob set screws loose
> on
> an RBB receiver.  They are still stuck. I'll try Kroil next.
>
> By the way #2:  The toughest thing I had to unstick in a Model 15 teletype
> was an actuator bar at the bottom of the mechanism that was involved in the
> shift-unshift action.  The bar had a sleeve on one end that pivoted on a
> shaft about 5/8 inch long.  No attempts with oil or penetrating fluid
> (likely liquid wrench) freed the thing up.  I had to hammer a jack knife
> blade between the end of the sleeve and the shoulder of the shaft to get it
> to move. Once freed up and lubricated, it ran like new.  NOTE: The fellow
> who sold me that machine had said "OH, I kept it running nicely with
> WD-40"!
> When he said that, I *nearly* refused to buy the thing.
>
> Roy
>
>
>
>
> Antique Tractor mailing list post:.
> Note that the reported results are in units of force, not torque, but we
> should forgive them for that.
>
>         From:   gdotsly at watchtv.net
>         Subject:        [AT] Penetrating Oil Test
>         Date:   April 12, 2010 9:33:40 AM EDT
>         To:     at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>         Reply-To:       at at lists.antique-tractor.com
>
>    Friend of mine sent this interesting test result.  Gonna have to try it.
> Could have used it this morning.
>
>                        Gene
>
> Machinist's Workshop magazine actually tested penetrants for break out
> torque on rusted nuts. Significant results! They arranged a subjective test
> of all the popular penetrants with the control being the torque required to
> remove the nut from a "scientifically rusted" environment.
>
> Penetrating oil ..... Average load
>
> None ............ ......... 516 pounds
>
> WD-40 ............ ...... 238 pounds
>
> PB Blaster ............ ..214 pounds
>
> Liquid Wrench ...... 127 pounds
>
> Kano Kroil ............ 106 pounds
>
> ATF-Acetone mix... 53 pounds
>
> The ATF-Acetone mix was a "home brew" mix of 50 - 50 automatic transmission
> fluid and acetone.
>
> Note the "home brew" was better than any commercial product in this one
> particular test. A local machinist group mixed up a batch and all now use
> it
> with equally good results. Note also that "Liquid Wrench" is about as good
> as "Kroil" for about 20% of the price.
>
> Roy Morgan
> k1lky68 at gmail.com
> K1LKY Since 1958
>
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