[GreenKeys] Kennedy TTY Traffic Re-creation for ITTY? on nov 22 ? Just a ...

[Doug Alderdice]

I believe your answer is in text from the UPI stylebook I sent, "A flash 
takes 10 bells, which follow it."  I read it as the bells follow the Flash, 
Urgent, etc. slug, as in your first example.

Since I wasn't here yet when JFK was assassinated and hadn't yet started 
school when the UPI stylebook was printed, are there any former AP/UPI 
folks on this list who can comment?

Doug.


At 09:42 PM 11/19/2013 -0300, Javier Albinarrate wrote:
>Ok, yes I knew of the 5 and 10 bells, didn't know the 4 ones.
>
>Now, normally, where would these be placed? The fact that I only have 
>Siemens TTYs which show a readable bell character, also means I don't know 
>how the Teletype ones dealt with it.
>Did they go before the tag? after the tag?
>Take this example:
>
>      U R G E N T
>
>The oeprator added spaces between the letters to make it stand out. Also 
>there are a number of "spaces" before the tag.
>The question would then be...
>Should it be
>
>"     U R G E N T\b\b\b\b\b"
>or
>"\b\b\b\b\bU R G E N T"
>
>Very fine details really :) hahahah
>
>Regards!
>Javier
>
>
>
>On 19/11/2013 21:11, Doug Alderdice wrote:
>>I am not an expert, nor do I play one on TV, but according to the UPI 
>>stylebook PDF scan I have from 1967 it says this about bells on 
>>teleprinter circuits:
>>
>>"USE OF BELLS -- A flash takes 10 bells, which follow it.  A bulletin 
>>uses five bells, an urgent four.  When designated by desk, copy may be 
>>given four bells and urgent priority without the use of the urgent slug."
>>
>>FWIW.
>>
>>Doug, KA2WFT
>>
>>
>>At 05:17 PM 11/19/2013 -0600, Cory Heisterkamp wrote:
>>>Javier, this is great stuff! Looks like the JFK transcript contains the 
>>>mundane news coming over the wire prior to the actual event which makes 
>>>it all the more accurate. The link Ed posted the other day contains some 
>>>information about the bells but maybe an expert will weigh in.
>>>
>>>Seems this recreation might be easier than anticipated. -Cory
>>>
>>>On Nov 18, 2013, at 2:42 PM, Javier Albinarrate 
>>><<mailto:javier at albinarrate.com>javier at albinarrate.com> wrote:
>>>
>>>>Folks,
>>>>
>>>>I like this idea a lot.
>>>>Regarding the sources...
>>>>
>>>>For HeavyMetal v3.1 I actually made an archive section with some text 
>>>>recovered from multiple sources.
>>>>In HM it is available directly from the menu but you can of course 
>>>>access the files directly.
>>>>Check it out.
>>>><http://albinarrate.com/heavymetal/history/rss.xml>http://albinarrate.com/heavymetal/history/rss.xml 
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>These are historically quite correct, and extremely fancy to play (I do 
>>>>at the museum from time to time).
>>>>However they have slight variations from the originals, to ensure that 
>>>>if somebody prints these and tries to sell them as authentic, it would 
>>>>be possible to identify them.
>>>>
>>>>Regards!
>>>>Javier
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>On 16/11/2013 18:39, Cory Heisterkamp wrote:
>>>>>I bet we could automate it. A webcam and OCR software could take huge 
>>>>>chunks at a time, or rig a flatbed and a take up "spool", like what 
>>>>>was done with acetate rolls on an overhead projector. Of course, we 
>>>>>have to find the content first.
>>>>>
>>>>>On Nov 16, 2013, at 3:01 PM, 
>>>>><mailto:COURYHOUSE at aol.com>COURYHOUSE at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>>well on ebay there are many messages  for  sale  also  there are
>>>>>>some  on  the  net ....   that is  how I  found that one  I posted 
>>>>>>previously ...
>>>>>>
>>>>>>Finding the  log of the real stories coming in over the wire before 
>>>>>>the Flash  would be  the  hard  part....
>>>>>>
>>>>>>it  would be a lot of  typing!   I am not  the one  to do it
>>>>>>since I have poor typing
>>>>>>
>>>>>>In a message dated 11/16/2013 1:48:48 P.M. Mountain Standard Time, 
>>>>>><mailto:coryheisterkamp at gmail.com>coryheisterkamp at gmail.com writes:
>>>>>>>I like the idea, but it raises a few good questions. In a typical 
>>>>>>>day, was there any sort of "archive" for news sent over the UPI or 
>>>>>>>AP wire? I'm assuming that after a tape was sent it was trashed.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>Part of the fascination of a recreation like this would be to make 
>>>>>>>it as authentic as possible, to have other, real stories coming in 
>>>>>>>over the wire before the Flash.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>You see scrolls of typed output saved from major events, like this, 
>>>>>>>and the moon landing (and put on eBay at preposterous prices). Does 
>>>>>>>anyone have the scroll from the assassination?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>When I have my 28 up and running, you'd be surprised the number of 
>>>>>>>people, young and old, that ask me if the news coming in is current, 
>>>>>>>or "old".   -Cory
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>On Nov 15, 2013, at 2:44 PM, 
>>>>>>><mailto:COURYHOUSE at aol.com>COURYHOUSE at aol.com wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>     Kennedy  TTY  Traffic Re-creation  for ITTY? on nov 22? Just a
>>>>>>>>thought!