[GreenKeys] Close enough?

Peter Gottlieb nerd at verizon.net
Thu Mar 14 14:44:24 EDT 2013


I dunno, I've used VoIP quite successfully and good speakerphones are enormously 
better than the old analog ones, which were really bad.


On 3/14/2013 11:19 AM, Chris Elmquist wrote:
> And then there is VoIP, which, IMHO, is completely useless for
> communications.
>
> The IT Crowd here has bet the farm on this and doubled down with VoIP
> speaker phones that integrate with their precious Microsoft Link service.
>
> All of this garbage makes for embarrassing conference calls with customers
> where nobody can understand a word anyone has said (because it's all
> "pixelated", which is an interesting application of a video phenomenon
> to audio), the call drops repeatedly throughout the meeting (but that's
> only after the wasted 15 minutes at the beginning while they screw around
> with a PC trying to establish the call) and then we all leave wondering
> WTF was accomplish over that last hour.
>
> I've kept a POTS line in service at my house because I could actually
> communicate over it but recently CenturyTel who bought Qwest who bought
> Northwestern Bell have been unable to fix the hum and static on my circuit
> which now renders that useless.  Where do I get telephone service that
> actually works now?
>
> I'm thinking about moving to a cabin in the mountains and writing
> manifestos...
>
> Chris N0JCF
>
> On Thursday (03/14/2013 at 02:31PM +0000), Sheldon Daitch wrote:
>> "Remember Toll Quality? Now the gold standard is a hand held radio, which most people call a cell phone or mobile."
>>
>> Many years ago, I was working with a contractor who was replacing a Mitel analog electronic telephone switch with a Rolm Redwood Digital switch.
>>
>> I realized the Redwood desk sets didn't seem to sound as good as the analog desk sets used with the Mitel and complained to the contractor.
>>
>> He finally said, you are right.  The frequency response on the digital phones rolled off just above 3 KHz, tighter than the analog phones.  He
>> said most people never notice, about 95% or more never hear the difference. I retorted that that 5% all worked in our building.
>>
>> On the toll circuits, today, it is virtually impossible to tell the difference between a toll circuit and a local circuit.  Some of this is due to the digital circuits, but perhaps more is that local circuit have exactly the same frequency response as toll circuits.
>>
>> Granted, I am not recommending we go back to analog MUX systems, but sometimes progress isn't all progress.
>>
>> 73
>>
>> Sheldon
>>
>>
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