[GreenKeys] Problems with AOL and 'bulk mail' situations

[Richard Knoppow]

----- Original Message ----- 
From: <gil at baudot.net>
To: "Ralph Irish" <w8roi at wowway.com>
Cc: <greenkeys at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Monday, June 17, 2013 7:49 PM
Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] Problems with AOL and 'bulk mail' 
situations


Hey Ralph:


Yeah, it's a bummer that aol is so screwy.  Luckily I don't 
have to jump through hoops like you did, I can only say "oh 
well, not much I can do," and leave it up to the users to 
deal with it (like, get a friendlier isp).



I can re-enable bounce-disabled accounts (which takes a 
while) over and over, and I have set bounce trigger limits 
to max, but other than that I have no control over how 
mailman deals with the issue.


Surprisingly, it just does not seem to be an issue with 
other ISPs.  Ya know, my credit card companies "learn" my 
habits so they can spot unusual activity...


You would think that aol would know that after a user has 
been getting daily email from greenkeys (for months or years 
or a decade, sheesh), that it is ok to whitelist greenkeys 
and not piss off their users.  Just silly programming by 
inexperienced software types, I suppose.


gil

    I have had a similar problem with another mailing list 
I've been on for many years,  I suddenly stopped getting the 
list.  However, I could post to the list and see my posts on 
the web site.  Something in its path blocks anything going 
to Earthlink.  Resubscribing me didn't help.  I got around 
this by subscribing through my throw away at ARRL. Those 
come through fine.  The list owner has been doing what he 
can but there is more stuff hanging off the internet than 
you can believe.


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Richard Knoppow
Los Angeles
WB6KBL
dickburk at ix.netcom.com