[GreenKeys] WHOA! found huge size engineering drawing western union28 ele...
tony.podrasky
tony.podrasky at gmail.com
Sat Jul 6 22:19:10 EDT 2013
Hello All;
I've gotten some comments (and flak) on this, Unless someone can
really taunt me well, this is my final entry...
Just to make a few final comments:
o The transaction was handled via e-mail. There was no contract, just
a simple agreement that "I'll take the pictures of your wedding for
$900, and then we'll go over which pictures you want (some/all) and
go over the price for that".
o This was my wedding, for goodness sakes - not an inauguration or
a NFL / Major League Baseball taping. He took some pictures, which
to pretty much everyone else in the world, would be worthless. Gimme
a break on the "intellectual property" baloney!
o In this digital age, I don't see any reason to own a set of prints of
anything when you can store them digitally, make collages and such,
which, if you periodically refresh the digital information, will never
deteriorate and can be saved in several places so if your house burns
down, they don't go with it. Once a year, on our anniversary, we put
the DVD into the player, pop open a bottle of champagne, and watch.
UE,
W6ESE - tony
NNNN
ZCZC
On 07/06/2013 06:39 PM, COURYHOUSE at aol.com wrote:
> all depends on the contract... but mainly when I was in the biz (
> back in the 70s) wedding negs stayed with the company...
> In a message dated 7/6/2013 5:05:35 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,
> carcher at parkcity.net writes:
>
> I know it's drifting OT, but...
> If you have a portrait made by a professional photographer in their
> studio
> they can copyright the picture. On the other hand, if you hire a
> photographer (wedding or event) and pay them for their time it's
> generally
> understood (or assumed) that they are your employee (or contractor) and
> anything they photograph is your property. You should always get
> this in
> writing before the photo shoot.
>
> I have had problems taking a digital photo into WalMart and having
> the clerk
> refuse to give me my print because "it looks like it was made be a
> professional in a studio". Another store printed it without problems.
>
> Clay
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> [mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net] On Behalf Of tony.podrasky
> Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 4:25 PM
> To: Nick England; Jim Haynes
> Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] WHOA! found huge size engineering drawing
> western
> union28 electrical sche
>
> Hey Nic & al;
>
> When the photographer took my wedding pictures (digital camera,
> of course), and we got together a week later to go over them,
> The final bill was like $900 for his work (about 4 hours worth),
> and another $200 for the full set of prints. (might have been more
> or less - I don't remember).
>
> I told him I don't want the prints. All I want is either a DVD
> with all the photos on it or access to download them to my computer.
>
> Here we go: [P = photographer] [M = me]
>
> P: I can't do that.
> M: Why?
> P: Because they're copyrighted.
> M: ???
> M: What do you mean, "they're copyrighted"?
> P: They're my "intellectual property".
> M: ???
> M: I dunno about that. They may have been taken by you, but
> they are of me and my wife.
> P: (blank stare).
> M: Tell yah what: you give me a DVD and you save the time of
> printing all the pictures, and I save $200.
> P: I can't do that.
> M: (now I'm getting cranked-off).
> M: OK - here's my final offer: If you don't give me a DVD,
> I'm NOT GOING TO PAY YOU, and since I haven't signed a release,
> if you publish the pictures I'll sue you into the next dimension!
> P: (no comment).
> M: (getting up to leave) Ball's in your court - and remember: I had
> plenty of friends there that were taking the important pictures,
> as well as the silly ones - and they'll give 'em to me for free.
>
> Got my DVD.
>
> Of course, I brought my laptop when I picked it up to make sure that
> it loaded all the pix onto my HDD.
>
> That might not work with FedEx/Kinkos - but it did work on him! :-)
>
> UE,
> W6ESE - tony
> NNNN
> ZCZC
>
>
> On 07/05/2013 03:42 PM, Nick England wrote:
> > Its the
> > same on their smaller format copiers Internally they are scanning to
> > digital and then printing but they won't let you get to the data.
> > Sounds crazy to me but that's what they told me is policy.
> >
> > Nick (phone email acct)
>
> --
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> | seriously considered as a means of communication.
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> | -Western Union memo, 1877
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