[GreenKeys] WHOA! found huge size engineering drawing western union28 ele...

Sat Jul 6 21:39:01 EDT 2013

all depends on the  contract... but   mainly  when I  was in the biz  (  
back in the 70s)    wedding   negs  stayed  with the company...

In a message dated 7/6/2013 5:05:35 P.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
carcher at parkcity.net writes:

I know  it's drifting OT, but...
If you have a portrait made by a professional  photographer in their studio
they can copyright the picture.  On the  other hand, if you hire a
photographer (wedding or event) and pay them for  their time it's generally
understood (or assumed) that they are your  employee (or contractor) and
anything they photograph is your  property.  You should always get this in
writing before the photo  shoot.

I have had problems taking a digital photo into WalMart and  having the 
clerk
refuse to give me my print because "it looks like it was  made be a
professional in a studio".  Another store printed it without  problems.

Clay

-----Original Message-----
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[mailto:greenkeys-bounces at mailman.qth.net]  On Behalf Of tony.podrasky
Sent: Friday, July 05, 2013 4:25 PM
To: Nick  England; Jim Haynes
Cc: greenkeys at mailman.qth.net
Subject: Re:  [GreenKeys] WHOA! found huge size engineering drawing western
union28  electrical sche

Hey Nic & al;

When the photographer took my  wedding pictures (digital camera,
of course), and we got together a week  later to go over them,
The final bill was like $900 for his work (about 4  hours worth),
and another $200 for the full set of prints. (might have been  more
or less - I don't remember).

I told him I don't want the  prints. All I want is either a DVD
with all the photos on it or access to  download them to my computer.

Here we go: [P = photographer] [M =  me]

P: I can't do that.
M: Why?
P: Because they're  copyrighted.
M: ???
M: What do you mean, "they're copyrighted"?
P:  They're my "intellectual property".
M: ???
M: I dunno about that. They  may have been taken by you, but
they are of me and my  wife.
P: (blank stare).
M: Tell yah what: you give me a DVD and you save  the time of
printing all the pictures, and I save $200.
P:  I can't do that.
M: (now I'm getting cranked-off).
M: OK - here's my  final offer: If you don't give me a DVD,
I'm NOT GOING TO PAY  YOU, and since I haven't signed a release,
if you publish the  pictures I'll sue you into the next dimension!
P: (no comment).
M:  (getting up to leave) Ball's in your court - and remember: I had
plenty of friends there that were taking the important  pictures,
as well as the silly ones - and they'll give 'em to  me for free.

Got my DVD.

Of course, I brought my laptop when I  picked it up to make sure that
it loaded all the pix onto my  HDD.

That might not work with FedEx/Kinkos - but it did work on him!  :-)

UE,
W6ESE - tony
NNNN
ZCZC

On 07/05/2013 03:42  PM, Nick England wrote:
> Its the
> same on their smaller format  copiers  Internally they are scanning to
> digital and then  printing but they won't let you get to the data.
> Sounds crazy to me  but that's what they told me is policy.
>
> Nick (phone email  acct)

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| seriously considered as a means of communication.
| The device is inherently of  no value to us.
|                     -Western Union memo,  1877
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