[GreenKeys] the rareness of the KSR 35 vd ASR 35

COURYHOUSE at aol.com COURYHOUSE at aol.com
Wed Dec 11 22:03:54 EST 2013


well after  I had  gotten the cameras    I  went  hunting   the  station... 
there is a  station in  Charleston, SC   with a real call sign that  the  
West  Chester  had  adopted for a name... they  could  do  that  because West 
Chester  was  not over the  air... they  were cable on campus...  heh!   I 
pestered  people  at  the   TV station   but  I soul have realized  they  
would not have been using a   DAGE  camera at a formal   broadcast  on the air 
 station. 
 
_WCSC, Live 5 News, The  Lowcountry's News Leader - Live5News ..._ 
(http://www.live5news.com/)   
www.live5news.com/ - _Similar_ 
(http://search.aol.com/aol/search?s_it=similarPages.search&v_t=client97_searchbox&o_q=WCSC,+television&q=related:www.live
5news.com/+WCSC,+television)  to WCSC, Live 5  News, The Lowcountry's News 
Leader - Live5News ...  
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...
 
In a message dated 12/11/2013 12:30:44 P.M. US Mountain Standard Tim,  
pete at petelancashire.com writes:

Small world !!  


I knew a guy who did part of his student time as WCSC, Looking
back it was also well funded. My guess due to its work work  education.
I now remember some of classrooms for the kids had camera in them
but hidden.


-pete


On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:52 AM, <_COURYHOUSE at aol.com_ (mail
to:COURYHOUSE at aol.com) > wrote:


diverging to West Chester....
 
Remember  the ETV  station they had there!?  we have  their  cameras  here 
in AZ....
 
this is  from the   West  Chester   Yearbook.
 
see lots  of  photos and yearbook pages here at museum  site....
http://www.smecc.org/west_chester_wcsc-etv_&.htm
 
here is one here
 

 
 

 
In a message dated 12/11/2013 11:26:37 A.M. Mountain Standard Time, 
_pete at petelancashire.com_ (mailto:pete at petelancashire.com)  writes:

The class  was not for me :-). It was the early 70's. The school was part of
the  local college (now university). West Chester State. The school was  
part
of the colleges teaching research, called the DEM or Demonstration  School.

The new DEM building was also the computer science center.  I got access 
when
I was 15. In those days all you needed was to know  someone and not be a 
jerk.
The only door I remember being locked was  the room with the HP and the 360.
The code to open the lock was  123.

The grade school kids who got to go where picked from the  local area, the 
names
were put in a pool, and picked at  random.

Being such a project, the school and the comp sci  department had a lot of 
toys
a college would not normally afford, along  with the HP the IBM 360 was a 
/45
quite the machine for a small  school.

Back to the HP, not sure what it started out as, but I  remember in the
later 70's
it was a 2116 with at least one disk, not  sure if the O/S was on a
Head-per-track
or not. The modems to the  outside were WE's. The library had a 35. In one 
of
the dorms was a 33  can't remember if it was a KSR or ASR. Never saw the  
others.






On 12/11/13, _COURYHOUSE at aol.com_ (mailto:COURYHOUSE at aol.com)  
<_COURYHOUSE at aol.com_ (mailto:COURYHOUSE at aol.com) > wrote:
> YES!   Pete  HP 2000  timeshare  system!    it   probably had the  single
> processor  16 pots and  drum   memory!?
>
> You were going  first   class using  35 KSR's! Our   schools here in   AZ
> all had  33's
>
> If  so that  would  be   a 2000A   timeshare  system.  as   you upgrade  
many
>
>  people kept  the   2116  as an I/O processor  up to a HP 2000F timeshare
>  system.
>
>  HP's  final offering in the  2000  timeshare line was  called  "2000
> ACCESS"  and was  far  and above of earlier  iterations of  the    
systems in
> file
> handling  and system   capabilities  even  did RJE and HASP!  The   2116
> would
>  no  longer  wok as the I/O  process with the access upgrade  due  to
> increased   memory needs  32K words vs  16 K words max on  the   2116.... 
and
>
> there was  some new  microcode  that  was necessary  for the  running of  
the
>
> 2000  Access  system  I/O  processor.  the  replacement  was a HP-2100   
with
>
> 32K words  or a HP-21 MX  with 32  k-words
>
> we ended up  with the   2000fF  systems  from   MCCCD and Phx union both  
 we
>
> still have the  2116   from   Phx  Union  and we  have the compete system
> from  MCCCD you  see in  the young Ed  Photo  below..
>
> The MCCCD 2000F  we upgraded to an access  system.
>
>
>
>
> Ed Sharpe CEO of Computer  Exchange Inc.
> (The  computer was younger and so was  Ed!)
>
>  (http://www.smecc.org/hp2000_2.jpg)
>
>  a  cabinet label from  one of the First HP timeshare   systems...
> ( I actually have a few extras of these as one   timeshare  co we  bought
> the old cabinets  from had  a number of the   branded   plexi-front   
racks)
>
> Ed Sharpe KF7RWW  Archivist for SMECC ( where  HP-2000 is !) and  retired
> CEO  Computer Exchange  n.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/11/2013 10:29:15  A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
> _pete at petelancashire.com_ (mailto:pete at petelancashire.com)  writes:
>
>  One  place I saw a lot of KSRs was at a school. They had one ASR  (maybe 
2)
>
> and
> from very foggy memory 5 or 6 KSRs  in the main lab along with two 029s  
and
>
> a
>  129. Who on the list knows what they are :-) The grade school lab   had
> 3 or 4 KSRs
> They TTYs were all hooked up to a HP 2116  running HP  2000 Time Share
> Basic.
>
> At  Burroughs consoles were KSRs or where we  didn't need a hard  copy
> CRTs. Most input was 80 col cards. There were ASRs  in  the classified
> areas where they designed interfaces to  communication  systems. Oh .. and
> of course the TWX room had  two  ASRs
>
>  -pete
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/10/13, _COURYHOUSE at aol.com_ (mailto:COURYHOUSE at aol.com)   
<_COURYHOUSE at aol.com_ (mailto:COURYHOUSE at aol.com) > wrote:
>> many many  many  ASR's   used as consoles on timeshare systems  and  it 
was
>> the standard in  the process control  environment  as even in  a  foul
>  oily
>>
>> environment   they   ran  and   ran
>>
>> Back when I have the computer  business in the early 80s' n  the  only
>>  KSR
>> 35s I seem to remember  came   from   that one  hospital  in calif and
>> they
>>  were  desktops!  ( some ROs    also...
>>
>> we had scads  of   33s   and many  ASR    35s
>>
>>  of  course ... I imagine   commonality and rarity  would  also  change
>  with
>> geographical  area  perhaps   but  that was my  take pone it here
>>
>> Ed   Sharpe  Archivist  for SMECC  _www.smecc.org_  
(_http://www.smecc.org_ (http://www.smecc.org/) )
>
>






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