[GreenKeys] the rareness of the KSR 35 vd ASR 35

Wed Dec 11 14:30:42 EST 2013

Small world !!

I knew a guy who did part of his student time as WCSC, Looking
back it was also well funded. My guess due to its work work education.
I now remember some of classrooms for the kids had camera in them
but hidden.

-pete

On Wed, Dec 11, 2013 at 10:52 AM, <COURYHOUSE at aol.com> wrote:

>  diverging to West Chester....
>
> Remember  the ETV  station they had there!?  we have their  cameras  here
> in AZ....
>
> this is  from the   West  Chester  Yearbook.
>
> see lots  of  photos and yearbook pages here at museum site....
> http://www.smecc.org/west_chester_wcsc-etv_&.htm
>
> here is one here
>
>
>  In a message dated 12/11/2013 11:26:37 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
> pete at petelancashire.com writes:
>
> The class was not for me :-). It was the early 70's. The school was part of
> the local college (now university). West Chester State. The school was part
> of the colleges teaching research, called the DEM or Demonstration School.
>
> The new DEM building was also the computer science center. I got access
> when
> I was 15. In those days all you needed was to know someone and not be a
> jerk.
> The only door I remember being locked was the room with the HP and the 360.
> The code to open the lock was 123.
>
> The grade school kids who got to go where picked from the local area, the
> names
> were put in a pool, and picked at random.
>
> Being such a project, the school and the comp sci department had a lot of
> toys
> a college would not normally afford, along with the HP the IBM 360 was a
> /45
> quite the machine for a small school.
>
> Back to the HP, not sure what it started out as, but I remember in the
> later 70's
> it was a 2116 with at least one disk, not sure if the O/S was on a
> Head-per-track
> or not. The modems to the outside were WE's. The library had a 35. In one
> of
> the dorms was a 33 can't remember if it was a KSR or ASR. Never saw the
> others.
>
>
>
>
>
>
> On 12/11/13, COURYHOUSE at aol.com <COURYHOUSE at aol.com> wrote:
> > YES!  Pete  HP 2000  timeshare  system!    it  probably had the  single
> > processor  16 pots and drum   memory!?
> >
> > You were going  first  class using  35 KSR's! Our   schools here in  AZ
> > all had  33's
> >
> > If  so that  would be   a 2000A   timeshare  system.  as  you upgrade
> many
> >
> >  people kept  the  2116  as an I/O processor  up to a HP 2000F timeshare
> > system.
> >
> >  HP's  final offering in the  2000 timeshare line was  called  "2000
> > ACCESS"  and was far  and above of earlier  iterations of  the   systems
> in
> > file
> > handling  and system  capabilities  even  did RJE and HASP!  The  2116
> > would
> >  no  longer  wok as the I/O process with the access upgrade  due  to
> > increased  memory needs  32K words vs  16 K words max on  the  2116....
> and
> >
> > there was  some new  microcode that  was necessary  for the  running of
> the
> >
> > 2000  Access  system  I/O processor.  the  replacement  was a HP-2100
> with
> >
> > 32K words  or a HP-21 MX  with 32 k-words
> >
> > we ended up  with the   2000fF systems  from   MCCCD and Phx union both
> we
> >
> > still have the  2116   from  Phx  Union  and we  have the compete system
> > from MCCCD you  see in  the young Ed  Photo below..
> >
> > The MCCCD 2000F  we upgraded to an access system.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > Ed Sharpe CEO of Computer Exchange Inc.
> > (The  computer was younger and so was Ed!)
> >
> >  (http://www.smecc.org/hp2000_2.jpg)
> >
> > a  cabinet label from  one of the First HP timeshare  systems...
> > ( I actually have a few extras of these as one  timeshare  co we  bought
> > the old cabinets  from had a number of the   branded   plexi-front
> racks)
> >
> > Ed Sharpe KF7RWW  Archivist for SMECC ( where HP-2000 is !) and  retired
> > CEO  Computer Exchange n.
> >
> >
> >
> > In a message dated 12/11/2013 10:29:15 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,
> > pete at petelancashire.com writes:
> >
> > One  place I saw a lot of KSRs was at a school. They had one ASR (maybe
> 2)
> >
> > and
> > from very foggy memory 5 or 6 KSRs in the main lab along with two 029s
> and
> >
> > a
> > 129. Who on the list knows what they are :-) The grade school lab  had
> > 3 or 4 KSRs
> > They TTYs were all hooked up to a HP 2116 running HP  2000 Time Share
> > Basic.
> >
> > At Burroughs consoles were KSRs or where we  didn't need a hard copy
> > CRTs. Most input was 80 col cards. There were ASRs  in the classified
> > areas where they designed interfaces to communication  systems. Oh .. and
> > of course the TWX room had two  ASRs
> >
> > -pete
> >
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > On 12/10/13, COURYHOUSE at aol.com  <COURYHOUSE at aol.com> wrote:
> >> many many many  ASR's   used as consoles on timeshare systems and  it
> was
> >> the standard in  the process control environment  as even in  a  foul
> > oily
> >>
> >> environment   they   ran and   ran
> >>
> >> Back when I have the computer business in the early 80s' n  the  only
> >> KSR
> >> 35s I seem to remember  came   from  that one  hospital  in calif and
> >> they
> >> were  desktops!  ( some ROs   also...
> >>
> >> we had scads  of  33s   and many  ASR   35s
> >>
> >>  of  course ... I imagine  commonality and rarity  would  also  change
> > with
> >> geographical  area  perhaps   but that was my  take pone it here
> >>
> >> Ed  Sharpe  Archivist  for SMECC  _www.smecc.org_  (
> http://www.smecc.org)
> >
> >
>
>
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