[GreenKeys] the rareness of the KSR 35 vd ASR 35

[COURYHOUSE at aol.com]

diverging to West Chester....
 
Remember  the ETV  station they had there!?  we have  their  cameras  here 
in AZ....
 
this is  from the   West  Chester  Yearbook.
 
see lots  of  photos and yearbook pages here at museum  site....
http://www.smecc.org/west_chester_wcsc-etv_&.htm
 
here is one here
 

 
 
In a message dated 12/11/2013 11:26:37 A.M. Mountain Standard Time,  
pete at petelancashire.com writes:

The  class was not for me :-). It was the early 70's. The school was part of
the  local college (now university). West Chester State. The school was part
of  the colleges teaching research, called the DEM or Demonstration  School.

The new DEM building was also the computer science center. I  got access 
when
I was 15. In those days all you needed was to know someone  and not be a 
jerk.
The only door I remember being locked was the room with  the HP and the 360.
The code to open the lock was 123.

The grade  school kids who got to go where picked from the local area, the 
names
were  put in a pool, and picked at random.

Being such a project, the school  and the comp sci department had a lot of 
toys
a college would not normally  afford, along with the HP the IBM 360 was a 
/45
quite the machine for a  small school.

Back to the HP, not sure what it started out as, but I  remember in the
later 70's
it was a 2116 with at least one disk, not  sure if the O/S was on a
Head-per-track
or not. The modems to the  outside were WE's. The library had a 35. In one 
of
the dorms was a 33 can't  remember if it was a KSR or ASR. Never saw the  
others.






On 12/11/13, COURYHOUSE at aol.com  <COURYHOUSE at aol.com> wrote:
> YES!  Pete  HP 2000   timeshare  system!    it  probably had the   single
> processor  16 pots and drum    memory!?
>
> You were going  first  class using  35  KSR's! Our   schools here in  AZ
> all had   33's
>
> If  so that  would be   a  2000A   timeshare  system.  as  you upgrade   
many
>
>  people kept  the  2116  as an I/O  processor  up to a HP 2000F timeshare
>  system.
>
>  HP's  final offering in the  2000  timeshare line was  called  "2000
> ACCESS"  and was  far  and above of earlier  iterations of  the    
systems in
> file
> handling  and system   capabilities  even  did RJE and HASP!  The  2116
>  would
>  no  longer  wok as the I/O process with the  access upgrade  due  to
> increased  memory needs   32K words vs  16 K words max on  the  2116....  
and
>
> there was  some new  microcode that  was  necessary  for the  running of 
the
>
> 2000   Access  system  I/O processor.  the  replacement  was  a HP-2100  
with
>
> 32K words  or a HP-21 MX  with  32 k-words
>
> we ended up  with the   2000fF  systems  from   MCCCD and Phx union both  
 we
>
> still have the  2116   from  Phx   Union  and we  have the compete system
> from MCCCD you   see in  the young Ed  Photo below..
>
> The MCCCD  2000F  we upgraded to an access  system.
>
>
>
>
> Ed Sharpe CEO of Computer  Exchange Inc.
> (The  computer was younger and so was  Ed!)
>
>  (http://www.smecc.org/hp2000_2.jpg)
>
>  a  cabinet label from  one of the First HP timeshare   systems...
> ( I actually have a few extras of these as one   timeshare  co we  bought
> the old cabinets  from had a  number of the   branded   plexi-front   
racks)
>
> Ed Sharpe KF7RWW  Archivist for SMECC ( where  HP-2000 is !) and  retired
> CEO  Computer Exchange  n.
>
>
>
> In a message dated 12/11/2013 10:29:15 A.M.  Mountain Standard Time,
> pete at petelancashire.com  writes:
>
> One  place I saw a lot of KSRs was at a school.  They had one ASR (maybe 
2)
>
> and
> from very foggy memory  5 or 6 KSRs in the main lab along with two 029s  
and
>
>  a
> 129. Who on the list knows what they are :-) The grade school  lab  had
> 3 or 4 KSRs
> They TTYs were all hooked up to a HP  2116 running HP  2000 Time Share
> Basic.
>
> At  Burroughs consoles were KSRs or where we  didn't need a hard copy
>  CRTs. Most input was 80 col cards. There were ASRs  in the  classified
> areas where they designed interfaces to communication   systems. Oh .. and
> of course the TWX room had two   ASRs
>
> -pete
>
>
>
>
>
> On  12/10/13, COURYHOUSE at aol.com  <COURYHOUSE at aol.com>  wrote:
>> many many many  ASR's   used as consoles on  timeshare systems and  it 
was
>> the standard in  the  process control environment  as even in  a  foul
>  oily
>>
>> environment   they   ran  and   ran
>>
>> Back when I have the computer  business in the early 80s' n  the  only
>> KSR
>>  35s I seem to remember  came   from  that one   hospital  in calif and
>> they
>> were   desktops!  ( some ROs   also...
>>
>> we had  scads  of  33s   and many  ASR    35s
>>
>>  of  course ... I imagine   commonality and rarity  would  also  change
>  with
>> geographical  area  perhaps   but that  was my  take pone it here
>>
>> Ed  Sharpe   Archivist  for SMECC  _www.smecc.org_   
(http://www.smecc.org)
>
>

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