[GreenKeys] Teletype Model 33 ASR vs. ASR33
WA5CAB at cs.com
WA5CAB at cs.com
Mon Aug 15 11:09:39 EDT 2011
OK. The recent thread has seemed to be more about who wrote what and when.
But I thought the original post (which I don't think I saved) was about or
more about "who's correct". My take is that DEC did it, just to be
different. :-)
In a message dated 08/15/2011 06:28:46 AM Central Daylight Time,
chrise at pobox.com writes:
> On Monday (08/15/2011 at 12:47AM -0400), WA5CAB at cs.com wrote:
> >I agree with Don.
>
> Sure. I understand. But I think the question was about _when_ people
> started (mis)using the term which we can show was happening at least as
> early as 1970 in DEC documentation.
>
> Chris N0JCF
>
> >In a message dated 08/14/2011 23:27:07 PM Central Daylight Time,
> >Packard42 at gmail.com writes:
> >>Chris,
> >>
> >>It does not matter how far back the term goes.
> >>It is still as incorrect today as it was when the computer people
> >>first wrote it down.
> >>
> >>Don
> >>K9TTY
> >>
> >>
> >>
> >>On 14 Aug 2011, at 10:43 AM, Chris Elmquist wrote:
> >>
> >>On Sunday (08/14/2011 at 11:15AM -0400), Christian Gauger-Cosgrove
> >>wrote:
> >>>
> >>>The swapping of the type designation (KSR, ASR, RO) and model number
> >>>on teletypes is due to the computing field. On machines that spoke
> >>>ASCII the model 33 was a far, far more common terminal then it's more
> >>>robust cousin the 35. This was due to cost, for example an excerpt
> >>>from the 1970 price list for the DEC PDP-15:
> >>
> >>Absolutely. I was going to respond similarly-- I have in front of me
> >>the assembly manual for the MITS Altair 680b microcomputer (c) 1976,
> >>which throughout refers to ASR33/KSR33 when discussing the 20mA
> >>console interface.
> >>
> >>So I think the precedent goes back at least 35 or 40 yrs.
> >>
> >>Chris N0JCF
> >>
> >>--
> >>Chris Elmquist
>
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