[GreenKeys] AN/UGC-74B?

[wa2hwj at att.net]

I must admit that the UGC74 dot matrix printer version (B or C model) seems to be
a good unit. Possibly the melting rollers and power supply problem was
limited to the A version. 
Good to hear from Mr. Kleinschmidt. I had a sneaking suspicion that the
A model was based on the 311. 
73,
Jack WA2HWJ

NNNN


-------------- Original message from "Scott Johnson" <scottjohnson1 at cox.net>: -------------- 


> My impression of the B and C models is uniformly favorable, they atre 
> absolutely bulletproof, I have never had or operated a straight or A model, 
> im fact most of mine have the memory expansion and new processor mod, I 
> beleive these are the one Fair is selling now. 
> 
> Scott 
> ----- Original Message ----- 
> From: "Don Robert House" 
> To: "Tom Kleinschmidt" ; 
> 
> Sent: Monday, June 13, 2005 8:01 PM 
> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] AN/UGC-74B? 
> 
> 
> > Thanks for the correction Tom. Nice hearing from you. 
> > 
> > Don 
> > 
> > On 13 Jun 2005, at 7:54 PM, Tom Kleinschmidt wrote: 
> > 
> >> Correction! 
> >> 
> >> The original model -74 (Formerly TT-412-TG) was DESIGNED by Kleinschmidt 
> >> (KL) but KL did not win any of the manufacturing contracts. In fact, 
> >> this 
> >> printer and other equipment known as the "Tactical Communications 
> >> Project" - 
> >> or something close by name - was the beginning of the end for the 
> >> company. 
> >> 
> >> The bidding method was changed by the military signal corps in the mid 
> >> 1960s. The former tried and true formula was to low bid the design and 
> >> engineering and make up the losses on manufacturing. Instead each 
> >> segment 
> >> was bid completely independently. Gone were the days when if you 
> >> designed 
> >> it -they would come! You were no longer "automatically" the manufacturer 
> >> of 
> >> your design. 
> >> 
> >> The first version, no suffix and A?, used the rotating font wheels as 
> >> described in other emails - this was a design borrowed from the KL 
> >> 311(AN/FGC-80) KSR, 312 RO and 321? (AN/FGC -140) ASR data printers. 
> >> 
> >> The B and C suffix models are dot matrix printers as I recall - 
> >> redesigned 
> >> by others. 
> >> 
> >> Since it seems to be a well disliked piece of gear I knew you would 
> >> like to 
> >> know more about it! ;>) 
> >> 
> >> Tom 
> >> ----- Original Message ----- 
> >> From: "Don Robert House" 
> >> To: 
> >> Sent: Saturday, June 11, 2005 12:23 AM 
> >> Subject: Fwd: [GreenKeys] AN/UGC-74B? 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> 
> >>>> From: Don Robert House 
> >>>> Date: 10 June 2005 7:41:32 PM CDT 
> >>>> To: Bob McConnell 
> >>>> Subject: Re: [GreenKeys] AN/UGC-74B? 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> The UGC-74 was made by Kleinschmidt. The UGC-74A and UGC-74B were 
> >>>> made by other manufacturers. Only the 74 uses a standard ribbon. 
> >>>> The other two use special cartridges made only for the military. 
> >>>> There is a work around for replacing the ribbon if you intend to 
> >>>> get one. They are heavy duty machines that are waterproof. 
> >>>> Shipping is expensive since they weigh 100 pounds each. You also 
> >>>> need a special power cable to power them up. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> The Army has been using these old machines in some cases in 
> >>>> Afghanistan and Iraq until very recently as these machines run fine 
> >>>> in very very hot weather and are sand proof as well as waterproof. 
> >>>> Tom Kleinschmidt and Warren Brader are the experts on these 
> >>>> teletypewriters. 
> >>>> 
> >>>> Don R. House K9TTY 
> >>>> drhouse at nadcomm.com 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> On 10 Jun 2005, at 12:42 PM, Bob McConnell wrote: 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>> 
> >>>>> Can anyone tell me what these are? They don't quite look like 
> >>>>> Model 28s. There are two of them on this page: 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> THank you, 
> >>>>> 
> >>>>> Bob McConnell 
> >>>>> N2SPP 
> >>>>> 
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