[FPARC] MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER MEETING
Cheryl Lenartiene
Dashman at loveable.com
Wed Oct 11 21:04:27 EDT 2006
I also want to add that Joe and I were up in Orlando once, and, unbeknownst
to us, the only repeater within range of our HTs at our current location was
a repeater run by Spanish-speaking hams. We were trying to make contact with
our Friend, with whom we were going to meet later that day, and were not so
kindly asked to cease transmission on that repeater because we were not
speaking Spanish. That has always left a sour taste in my mouth, and I feel
it is grossly unfair to tell others that they can't use the repeaters just
because they aren't speaking English.
As to whether they are deliberately running other hams off the repeaters by
not allowing them to break into the conversation, I can only say that when
we had to switch the SLCRA net over to the .345 because the .775 was having
problems, we unknowingly interrupted their conversation. They were very kind
to us and even joined the net (in English).
I can understand that some might feel put off when they hear a language they
don't understand, but having been, in my view, discriminated against myself
for not speaking Spanish on a repeater where speaking English was not
permitted, I would humbly ask that whatever decision is made is not based
solely on the fact that they are not speaking English, but rather, on their
conduct as amateur radio operators. Has anyone taken the time to really get
to know them and evaluate their conduct? I have heard good things about them
from the few hams who have.
And as you think about this, ask yourself how you would feel and what your
reaction would be if it was you who were told to get off the repeater
because you werent speaking the language that was approved by the repeater
trustees. I can tell you that I felt unjustly discriminated against, and I
speak the language. My perception of what I thought was the good spirit of
ham radio was altered that day. I'm sure Joe and Larry felt the same way.
God bles,
Cheryl
Be joyful always, pray continually; give thanks in all circumstances, for
this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
1 Thessalonians 5:16-18/
NIV
----- Original Message -----
From: <kd4btdjoe at bellsouth.net>
To: "Fort Pierce ARC" <fparc at mailman.qth.net>; "Fort Pierce ARC"
<fparc at mailman.qth.net>
Sent: Wednesday, October 11, 2006 7:45 PM
Subject: Re: Re: [FPARC] MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER MEETING
> Well this is certainly turning into a hot topic. As both a member of the
> FPARC and an employee of Indian River Community College, I feel it my duty
> to caution the club. Since the Board of trustees of the college holds the
> license to WQCS and its tower, we must play nice. IRCC is a community
> organization and the administration would not take kindly to complaints of
> discrimination. If the club chooses to make rules governing the use of
> its repeater, might I suggest that these be drafted in writing and passed
> along to the manager of the radio station for his input. We have a good
> thing here on this tower and I would hate to see us lose it because of a
> complaint of discrimination. My opinion is any rules the club make should
> be backed by written regulations from a recognized authority such as the
> FCC or the ARRL.
>
> KD4BTD
> Joe
>
>>
>> From: Sherri Brower <w4stb at bellsouth.net>
>> Date: 2006/10/11 Wed AM 11:03:09 EDT
>> To: Fort Pierce ARC <fparc at mailman.qth.net>
>> Subject: Re: [FPARC] MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER MEETING
>>
>> Perhaps this area needs a bi-lingual repeater or at least one where
>> Spanish
>> language is welcome. It does not surprise me that there are visiting
>> hams
>> that are not fluent in English that could benefit from such.
>>
>> Cheryl is correct - foreign languages on the air are OK.
>>
>> Please do not construe this thread to mean that it is polite to speak in
>> another language so folks don't know what you are discussing. It's also
>> not polite to begin speaking in another language during a group
>> discussion
>> being conducted in English (I saw way too much of this in the workplace).
>>
>> Just my 2 cents.
>>
>> 73 and see you at the Melbourne hamfest.
>>
>> Sherri, W4STB
>>
>> At 08:39 PM 10/10/2006 -0400, you wrote:
>> >Hello Everyone,
>> >
>> >I don't post to this list much, but when I saw in the minutes from last
>> >month's meeting that there was a question as to whether it was
>> >permissible
>> >to speak a foreign language on a repeater, I had to speak up. As a
>> >speaker
>> >of three foreign languages, I paid special attention to these rules when
>> >studying for license exams. I also reviewed several sections of the FCC
>> >Rules. Section 97.117 clearly indicates that transmissions must be made
>> >in
>> >"plain language", and section 97.119 indicates that an operator must ID
>> >in
>> >English or by using the phonetic alphabet. The term "plain language" in
>> >section 97.117 does not specifically mean the "English language". If the
>> >FCC wanted to restrict transmissions to the English language, they would
>> >have indicated this in section 97.117, just as in section 97.119 they
>> >require that a person identifies themselves in English, specifically.
>> >Rather, the term "plain language" means that no hidden codes or messages
>> >are being transmitted; there are no double entendres, etc. There are
>> >exceptions to the hidden codes rule, but I am not referring to those in
>> >this context. All I am saying is that the FCC does not restrict the use
>> >of
>> >any language to transmit a message, even though that language might be
>> >foreign to a listener. The only restriction the FCC imposes is that one
>> >must legally identify themselves in English.
>> >
>> >Hope this clears things up.
>> >
>> >Cheryl
>> >
>> >Be joyful always, pray continually; give thanks in all circumstances,
>> >for
>> >this is God's will for you in Christ Jesus.
>> >1 Thessalonians 5:16-18/
>> >NIV
>> >
>> >----- Original Message ----- From: <KD4SPW at aol.com>
>> >To: <fparc at mailman.qth.net>
>> >Sent: Tuesday, October 10, 2006 7:45 AM
>> >Subject: [FPARC] MINUTES OF SEPTEMBER MEETING
>> >
>> >
>> > FORT PIERCE AMATEUR RADIO CLUB - MINUTES - 9/13/2006
>> >
>> > The regular monthly meeting of the Fort Pierce Amateur Radio Club
>> > was
>> >chaired by President Art Lindell, W4ZEF. Attendance was 16. Visitors
>> >were Tom
>> >Shedd, K4IWD, Ray Stilwell, WA4MLD, and Sherwin Fields, KA9COD.
>> >
>> > MINUTES: The minutes of the August meeting were approved as
>> >distributed, after motion by Herb, W1QPD, seconded by Bob, KC0KAC.
>> >
>> > TREASURY: Treasurer Carl, KF4KCIâ?Ts report was approved as
>> > distributed
>> >after motion by Herb, W1QPD, seconded by Bob, KC0KAC.
>> >
>> > Total funds: (designated for WQCS: $50)
>> > $2812.64.
>> >
>> > OLD BUSINESS
>> >
>> > Treasurer Carl, KF4KCI, as part of his TREASURY REPORT, gave an
>> >overview of our August HAMFEST tally. Hamfest net proceeds: $943.25.
>> >
>> > President Art, W4ZEF, discussed how we spent more this year for
>> > HAMFEST
>> >prizes. He said our club is doing very well in regard to our bank
>> >account and
>> >club assets. He said we have 2 newly refurbished repeaters that are
>> >working
>> >very well. He also said our club recently purchased another trailer,
>> >another HF
>> >radio, and another HF antenna.
>> >
>> > REPEATER: President Art, W4ZEF, asked Kevin, W4KKW, about
>> > changes
>> >involving our repeaters. Kevin said that both our repeaters, 2-meter and
>> >UHF,
>> >are set to automatically link each week for our Tuesday night net. Kevin
>> >said he
>> >will be giving out some control codes to members in the future. Art
>> >asked
>> >about the linking system picking up voices as control tones. Kevin said
>> >he
>> >thinks
>> >it is a result of having both IRLP and ECHOLINK running simultaneously,
>> >but
>> >is not sure of a fix. Kevin said we have a few future linking options
>> >with
>> >other repeaters.
>> >
>> > The group discussed Bill, N4XEOâ?Ts estate table at the HAMFEST.
>> > It
>> > was a
>> >good result. There are still some items to be sold on EBAY. Pete,
>> >KD4SPW,
>> >read a thank you letter from Billâ?Ts wife Barbara.
>> >
>> > Art, W4ZEF, asked if Joe, KD4BTD, had any news about the possible
>> >upcoming VETERANâ?TS DAY SPECIAL EVENT at the UDT/SEAL MUSEUM in Fort
>> >Pierce. Joe
>> >said no news. Joe said he would call or e-mail for additional info.
>> >
>> > NEW BUSINESS
>> >
>> > NET CONTROL: The group discussed that NET CONTROL OPERATORS should
>> > be
>> >club members. We also discussed that more members should be able and
>> >willing to
>> >run our NET.
>> >
>> > The group discussed the appropriateness of allowing only English
>> > to be
>> >spoken on our repeaters. Art, W4ZEF, said he would do some research on
>> >the
>> >subject.
>> >
>> > CLUB SOCIAL: President Art, W4ZEF, asked if we had interest in a
>> > club
>> >social before our end of year HOLIDAY social. We discussed going to a
>> >restaurant, and Carl, KF4KCI, offered to host a BBQ at his home, if we
>> >pick a date that
>> >he is available. We discussed a possible date in October or early
>> >November.
>> >Art also said that Carl has agreed to host our end of year social at his
>> >home.
>> >
>> > President Art, W4ZEF, told the group about a problem that a
>> > Hamfest
>> >attendee is having with one of our vendors about an item purchased. Art
>> >asked
>> >Pete, KD4SPW, to send an e-mail to the vendor saying that we hope the
>> >issue can
>> >be resolved.
>> >
>> > ATTENDANCE: KD4SPW, KF4KCI, W4KKW, KC0KAC, WA4MLD, K4IWD, WB4NOZ,
>> >W1QPD, BOBBIE ELLMERS, AI4NM, KF4BFR, KA9COD, W4RPE, W4ZEF, KG4MCE,
>> >KD4BTD.
>> >
>> > Submitted by Secretary Peter Amar,
>> >KD4SPW.
>> >_______________________________________________
>> >FPARC mailing list
>> >FPARC at mailman.qth.net
>> >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/fparc
>> >
>> >_______________________________________________
>> >FPARC mailing list
>> >FPARC at mailman.qth.net
>> >http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/fparc
>>
>> _______________________________________________
>> FPARC mailing list
>> FPARC at mailman.qth.net
>> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/fparc
>>
>
> _______________________________________________
> FPARC mailing list
> FPARC at mailman.qth.net
> http://mailman.qth.net/mailman/listinfo/fparc
More information about the FPARC
mailing list