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[Lee]

On 04/15/2007 08:58 am, you wrote:
> Robert Nickels wrote:
> > Radioman390 at cs.com wrote:
> >> Been there. Don't dabble in EBay unless you can afford
> >> to lose. Or at least be very careful. Post:
> >> mailto:ForSale-Swap at mailman.qth.net
> >
> > I think that's good advice, Matt, based on my experience.
> > Bear in mind that eBay has a 30 day time window for
> > filing a complaint - read the site for full info but I
> > found this out the hard way.  If you smell a rat, at
> > least get the process started so you don't loose whatever
> >  protection they do provide (which ain't much, I agree).
> >
> > Matt has outlined a pattern to look for that may
> > indicative of a seller that is fraudulent or at least
> > iffy.  Why hasn't eBay put software filters in place to
> > detect these patterns in the same way that the credit
> > card companies have?  Simple answer is because it's you
> > and I that are at risk, they've already made their money.
> > Something I'd like to see them get pressure to change.
> > It will never be 100% risk-free, but they could be doing
> > a lot more to protect their customers, especially since
> > they control both the sales channel (eBay) and the
> > payment process (PayPal).
>
> That is exactly why I don't use ebay or paypal.  I used to
> use ebay (never paypal), but thankfully I don't need to use
> it anymore to sell stuff.  Listings and risks both are up in
> cost, making other options more economical.
>
> Both of these outfits are the biggest fraud magnets in the
> history of civilized commerce.  I know it is not their fault
> directly, but I also know they are not doing enough to
> discourage it.  In my mind that makes them as much of the
> problem as the scammers.  I prefer not to support either one
> now that I have other options.
>
> Regards,
> Frank Kamp

I remember back when Ebay was first getting started there was a lot 
of talk about them failing as a business cuz of the fraud.  They 
instituted their ballyhoo'd protection policy in order not to crash 
and burn as a biz model.  

But, the original poster is correct, I have never had to go thru the 
rigamarole.  The furthest I've had to go is contacting Ebay, and 
they will send an email inquiry to the person, and that usu elicits 
a positive response, at least in my case.

I would have thought hams were a different breed, but I guess there 
are bad in every group.  Have you posted on the BadHam group? Prolly 
wont do much good, but it's something you can do while you're taking 
other action (or not).


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Lee <NY6P>