[Fists] Need a pro-sign // private post \\

[Fred Adsit]

Cheryl and David:

Let me put this in very few words (for me it is brief, to others it may be
too much).

1. We do not need new prosigns. Besides, some may say FISTS invented them.
The average ham would not recognize non-ham ones.

2. We no longer use the codes that commercial ships and shore stations
used. Please get into the 2003 era re this kind of subject.

3. I appreciate hearing about the history of the code, but I hardly think
it has any practical use anymore. It is our heritage, yes.

4. Part of our *ham radio* heritage is ham radio prosigns documented in
every ham radio book I own that lists them.

5. We have beaten this to death, I thought, but out of the woodwork you
come, with a long string of previous messages when the most recent would
do fine. Bad habit, since we have read the stuff maybe a dozen times
already.

6. Yes, AR is used. It is used prolifically.

Here is one that some former Coast Guard CW ops think they "own", but they
don't. I use it rarely on the air, however. The Coast Guard, like maritime
stations, don't use Morse Code anymore. We hams DO.

*ZUT*,  and I hope you and all the readers have a happy Thanksgiving. :-)

73 SK KB0RQN DE NY2V CL (nobody seems to know what CL means. It is on very
few lists: CLosing.)

----- Original Message ----- 
From: Cheryl W. Ring
To: Fred Adsit ; Fists@mailman.qth.net
Sent: Thursday, November 20, 2003 2:59 PM
Subject: Re: [Fists] Need a pro-sign


Commercial services didn't use KN because that was left "starting"
parenthesis: " ( "
KK was the right parenthesis " ) ".

If a commercial station were to call for FISTS only he would use "Call
specific stations" signal which is: "CP".

They would use it like this:

CP CP CP FISTS de KC0ANT KC0ANT KC0ANT K

Some proceedures have changed over the years.

It was common at one time to send they prosign for Understood several
times,
then followed by the "Starting signal" before giving the calling sequence:

VE VE VE KA NY2V NY2V de KC0ANT KC0ANT = R TU FRED FER GREAT QSO YOU SURE
ARE ONE HECK OF AN OPERATOR = MY DAD USED TO BE A SIGNAMEEEEEEE SIGNALMAN
IN
THE COAST GUARD + NY2V DE KC0ANT K

I haven't taken a notice of how many stations are using the "CROSS" or AR
or
+ before they change over.  Perhaps this is decling also.

73

CW & DJ Ring
KB0RQN - N1EA