[Fists] Need a pro-sign

Thu, 20 Nov 2003 09:36:20 +0200

Hi Stan

I agree wholeheartedly about the abuse of "R".

However I am not sure that a new prosign is necessary. If you miss
something, then it is usually for a reason (QRM, QRN, QSB) and stating the
reason (instead of "R") should be sufficient both to indicate that the
transmission was not copied perfectly and to indicate what the problem was.
For example:

K4UK DE ZS1AN QRM PSE AGN UR FISTS NR? BK

73,
Andrew ZS1AN

> -----Original Message-----
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> Behalf Of Stan Reas
> Sent: 19 November 2003 01:29
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> Subject: [Fists] Need a pro-sign
>
>
> Bill, W4BOT and I chatted the other night about the use and misuse of "R"
> during a QSO.
>
> The definition of the Procedure Signal "R" is:
> 	I received your transmission perfectly.  Do not send "R" if
> you didn't
> copy everything.
>
> Often we hear "R" repeated two or three times at the beginning of a
> transmission.  Followed by the statement:  "Missed ur name"  or
> "Missed ur
> QTH"  or  "Missed ur FISTS number"  Etc.
> Or, "Pse repeat name"  or  "Pse repeat QTH"  or  "Pse repeat FISTS
> number"  Etc.
>
> No where do I find a Procedure Signal that means: I received "some" or
> "most" of your transmission.
>
> So we got to thinking that we need a Procedure Sign which indicates that:
> 	I received most of your transmission, but not a solid copy.
>
> Perhaps we could use an "X"
> 	For example:  W4BOT de K4UK    X    Pse ur name agn
>
> Often I find myself sending "OK" rather than "R" and then proceeding with
> my transmission figuring the other station will recognize that I did NOT
> send "R" and that I may have missed some of his last transmission.
>
> We got to wondering whether any of the "old timers" know of any pro-sign
> that was used to indicate a not complete copy.
>
> If not, maybe FISTS can come up with such a pro-sign and publicize
> it.  Having such a pro-sgn would  sure would help to eliminate the
> incorrect use of "R"
>
> 73, Stan - K4UK
>
>
>
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