[FARC] 147.06

Kirk Talbott kirktal7237 at msn.com
Wed Jan 12 18:31:47 EST 2011


I believe the problem is fixed here although
with compromises on my part.  I changed
antennas to one 20 ft. lower, and
set the radio to narrow FM.   I'll monitor
it a little while longer though.

Now the guys up in Cumberland have
an EOC that uses Packet and
they use it on 145.75.  If linked repeaters
in Berkeley Springs WV and Damascus MD
are getting into me, I'm wondering if Berkeley Springs
or other linked repeaters up there are getting into
Cumberland with the same thing?

-----Original Message----- 
From: Dan Blasberg
Sent: Wednesday, January 12, 2011 5:57 PM
To: Frederick, Maryland ARC
Cc: lester at veenstras.com
Subject: Re: [FARC] 147.06

If I may interject from down here in PG County.

We have the same issue with intermod and mixing at our EOC, we would
hear several amateur repeaters on several frequencies across the band,
but the problem was not with the repeaters or their transmitters.  The
issue was the open front end (i.e. receives DC to Daylight) on the
amateur band radios used as well as a local taxi transmitter over
driving the front end and the mixing byproduct of the taxi transmitter
keying up at the same time other amateur repeaters were in use cause
the amateur repeaters to come across on other frequencies.

When we approached the taxi company, they had their technician contact
us and he checked their system.  It was well with-in spec and had no
spurs anywhere.  So the fix for our issue was two pronged.  Approach
one, was to use commercial grade (motorola, kenwood and icom) radios
programmed to the amateur VHF frequencies we had programmed for
permanent use.  Approach number two was to put a filter on the amateur
band radios used by VFO on VHF.  Both of these took care of our issues
down here.

May be the same issue up there, may not....just some food for thought.

Dan
KA8YPY

On Jan 12, 2011, at 5:40 PM, Kirk Talbott wrote:

> So I'm to suffer from a poor location as a linked repeater empire
> grows unchecked occupying an entire segment of the band,
> and whose technical omnipotence is unassailable from mere
> "underlings?"   Is a ham radio repeater system a public service
> or a private domain?  Suffer yes, in silence, never.
>
> "...the citizen who thinks he sees that the commonwealth's
> political clothes are worn out, and yet holds his peace and
> does not agitate for a new suit, is disloyal; he is a traitor."
>
>       ...Twain.
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Lester Veenstra
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 3:38 PM
> To: 'Frederick, Maryland ARC'
> Subject: Re: [FARC] 147.06
>
> The fact that a receiver (particularly on Braddock Mountain) is " am
> being
> hammered by intermod" should come to a surprise to no one.  However
> the fact
> that this is happening and you wish to " want to pass that along"
> implies
> that some else, i.e. the repeater operator" is at fault and should
> correct
> the receivers' problem, is a false assumption about the cause if
> intermodulation products in an RF dense environment.
>
> "The fault, dear Brutus, is not in our stars,
> But in ourselves, that we are underlings
>
>
> Lester B Veenstra  MØYCM K1YCM
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> -----Original Message-----
> From: farc-bounces at mailman.qth.net [mailto:farc-bounces at mailman.qth.net
> ] On
> Behalf Of Jeff Fishman
> Sent: Tuesday, January 11, 2011 1:03 AM
> To: Frederick, Maryland ARC
> Subject: Re: [FARC] 147.06
>
> Kirk,
> Thanks - will pass this along to N3VNG.
> Jeff
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Kirk Talbott" <kirktal7237 at msn.com>
> To: "Frederick, Maryland ARC" <farc at mailman.qth.net>
> Sent: Monday, January 10, 2011 7:50 PM
> Subject: [FARC] 147.06
>
>
>> FYI, I�m listening on the Frederick County Packet
>> frequency 145.75 and am being hammered by
>> intermod with voices from the 147.06 Monday
>> evening ARES net.  My location is Braddock.
>>
>> Additionally, I can hear the 147.06 ARES
>> net loud and clear down on 146.735 also.  Might
>> want to pass that along.
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