[FADCA] HAMS using Internet

[Jerry DeLong]

Charlie,

 

First off, I welcome your opinion.

 

This is entirely my opinion and since you opened the door and I am going to
share with others.

 

 

History will show that this isn't entirely true there are a lot of reason
why packet radio has gone to the

way-side. From what I have seen in this area first hand is the politics and
narrow minded thinking have

killed our radio networks time and time again. I believe the internet has
played a small part in this but

very small and slow speeds a close second. 

 

You need to look into the future TCPIP is and always going to be the norm
and works well at all speeds

even on RF. These days all PC have Web Browser and everyone at almost every
age group knows how

to use them. This is a easy way for people to login from the Internet and/or
RF so they **will** become 

interested again. We need users in order to grow our network, users need to
see that Packet is cool and 

exciting or they will just continue using the Internet and packet will die.

 

We are at the point now were we could be supplying end users with free
Internet access and free email,

digital voice traffic with just the cost of their own equipment. This type
of technology will bring back 

users but these type of network require TCPIP. The equipment needs could be
purchased pretty cheap.

 

Don't get me wrong I really do believe in RF but a combination of the two
can make for a more robust

network.

 

Example:

 

My first Internet connection ever was via 19.2K baud packet link to KD4IDR
in the mid 90's and work

like a champ.

 

I was using the World Wide Web via Ham Radio downloading software and
sending email the real deal.

 

We brought this to the attention of the local packet groups and no one could
see the big picture. Infect

only 2 people in the entire SWF area would participate and would finally
lose interest. Actually one lost 

interest and the other was pushed toward ROSE/Fpac because he didn't
understand TCPIP. 

 

This was 10 years ago.  

 

We control the destiny of Packet Radio so if it die it's because we didn't
keep up with technology and

not because HAMS would rather use the internet.

 

 

 

Best regards, Jerry, KD4YAL

 

 

 

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From: Charles S. Schuman [mailto:k4gbb1 at earthlink.net] 
Sent: Saturday, October 20, 2007 3:29 PM
To: kd4yal at tampabay.rr.com
Subject: RE: Fpac __TCP__

 

Normally I would applaud your effort, but The idea behind FPAC is to use the
internet to extend HAM radio.  A Web based FPAC node would extend the
internet. Internet e-mail killed radio based BBSes.   Web based interfaces
into radio interfaces would encourage HAMs to use the internet and forget
about the radio end of the  network. Pretty soon the guys and gals that
maintain the radio part move on and the network goes to HELL again. 

This is not a condemnation of your work... just a Old Fart's point of view.

<<Charlie>>



-----Original Message----- 
From: Jerry DeLong 
Sent: Oct 20, 2007 1:38 PM 
To: "'Charles S. Schuman'" 
Subject: RE: Fpac __TCP__ 




Charlie,

 

I agree with you but I have anther project I was working on a while back
using

Java base telnet via a secure http connection. This would give Fpac a sudo
web

Interface.

 

I did have this working for Xnet and wanted to try it with Fpac.

 

 

Jerry